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Poll Results:  Do you believe that the U.S. Government was complicit in 911, and Guilty of the Crime of 911? Everyone, Please Vote Now!

Yes, I have no Doubt in my Mind, the USA is Guilty   49.1% 49.1 % (1706)
Yes, I think there is High Probability of U.S. Complicity   21.2% 21.2 % (738)
No, 911 was carried out by Usama and his 19 Cave Dwelling Templar Terrorists   17.1% 17.1 % (593)
No. but I do believe the Bush Administration let it happen on purpose   7.9% 7.9 % (276)
I am new to this, and not sure, but it sure doesn't look good for America   4.7% 4.7 % (163)


Total Votes: 3476

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No Doubt
Posted on: 2005-01-31 07:31:26   By: Zerohour
  Edited By: Zerohour
On: 2005-01-31 07:32:21
George W. Bush is guilty of treason!

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    Re: No Doubt
    Posted on: 2005-01-31 10:31:07   By: Anonymous
      Edited By: Phil_Jayhan
    On: 2005-01-31 10:33:03
    Bush is only the puppet. Everybody knows his intellectual abilities are very limited and he does, says, and signs what he is told by Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of the neo-con mafia. That is no excuse however.




    (I tried to log in but it doesn't seem to work with this new site)

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      Re: No Doubt
      Posted on: 2005-02-16 18:18:17   By: Anonymous
       
      You are soooo full of *bleep*

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        Re: No Doubt
        Posted on: 2005-02-17 07:39:10   By: Anonymous
         
        Lets not be childish here...the odds that America attacked it self is just foolish! Its a known fact that bush and his administeration had their own agenda and 1 of them being increase military size and power and the other being, go into the middle east and finish wat the previous republican parties attempted to do. Naturally, everyone on this site knows, only way to get the "majority" vote of the US citizens to be in favor of going to war is by first instateing a "fear" and 911 and the fear or terrorism is that fear. just as the US and the pentagon have specific plans on what they would do or how to invade every country. there are groups and countries of people out there who have the same plans for the US. Anyone who watches tv or movies can see that, all ways people try to attach us americans. Now, some of these threats the US trys to prevent, like in the hit show 24, where a terrorist group trys to cause millions of deaths through nuclear reactor melt downs. but small things like car bombings and anthrax the US will allow to happen just so they can continue to get young new highschoolers like myself to want to go serve our country. but, a attack like 911 may have been severe, but the gov. felt "the ends justify the means" in this case. they felt it was just the rite kind of scar the US people needed. So, simply they allowed the attacks to happen. Now, the US has there hidden agenda with a great country like IRAN, with their loads of propaganda in iran, they have convinced the Iranians themselves that when the US invades it will be benifcial. so, its no accident that the new president of Iraq is of the same group and the ayotolla-president of Iran. So, just wait and see the link, some attack will happen or some problem will arise in Iraq and the US will be in Iran by summer time. This is the country we live in...and the fact that i can express my opinion like this with out total fear of prosecution is why im proud to be an american.

        HIGHSCHOOL SOPHMORE 408

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          Re: No Doubt
          Posted on: 2005-02-18 02:46:38   By: Anonymous
           
          Dear 408,

          You are no doubt a poor 'believes everything he reads' indoctrinated 'God Bless America' HIGHSCHOOL SOPHOMORON.

          Open your eyes, train your brain, learn to reason, and maybe read and spell, and find out by what bunch of merciless puppets of the US weapons industry your 'wonderful' country is ahem... 'governed'.

          Remember he words of president Dwight Eisenhower who already warned us for what's been going on since and is getting worse every day.

          I feel deeply sorry for all honest hardworking and as ever way too naive sods still believing in the so-called American dream, and much more so for the true victims of this dreamland of limitless consumption who are slaving themselves to death somewhere in what we dare call "under-developed countries". They are the ones who are really paying the bill, often even with their lifes.

          If people resent the USA couldn't it be because it is bringing them 'liberty and democracy', at gun-point, whether they want it or not. What's worse is that the US government doesn't seems to have a problem with eradicating people who dare refuse this so-called democracy. Quite like the Third Reich's government...

          Besides, adopting the 'American way' most often means deterioration of quality of life, raised work pressure and stress, immediate plunge of quality of food and certainly taste, deterioration of inter-human relationships, steep rise in production of waste, cost of life and crime, etc.

          AND YOU DARE CALL THAT PROGRESS? NO THANKS !!!


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            Re: No Doubt
            Posted on: 2005-02-18 04:55:19   By: Anonymous
             
            Wow. You nailed it right on the head. I am an American, born and raised, and sadly, we have been "educated" and "indoctrinated" from the time we are born to believe that this is the best ever, in the whole world. While we have a great land, and honestly, the American people are a resilient bunch, and mostly hard working, decent, compassionate people, you are ever so right when you say we are over worked, over stressed, and driven like rats in a maze to be good consumers of all the products of the horrid corporate moguls. Our government, while never truly representative of "the people" has blatantly and clearly gone over the edge of insanity, and there are many of us who are truly horrified, outraged, and downright fearful of the future. So, everyone out there, believe me. Our government does NOT represent our people.

            Keep posting truth out there. Our media is run by the "republican machine" and we are not getting the truth, except for the internet. God help us keep THAT medium free!

            abitcrazy in Phoenix, Arizona


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              Re: No Doubt
              Posted on: 2005-02-18 16:17:40   By: Anonymous
               
              You said the "media is controlled by ""the republican machine"". What evidence do you have of that?

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              Re: No Doubt
              Posted on: 2005-02-22 22:15:04   By: Anonymous
               
              we do live in a great land!!
              a land that allows people like you to post messages like this, a land that allows this web site to exist, when it is so full of lies.try something like this in other countries, they come after you immediately!!perfect land? no, but I am proud to be American and to pray even for people that show such contempt for this country and our leaders. Phillip from florida

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            Re: No Doubt
            Posted on: 2005-02-18 08:22:06   By: Anonymous
             
            Maybe i didnt full express my opinion on the subject matter. i am in no way in favor of whats goin on in the middle east. the US quest for oil is a horrible thing. my opinion on the 911 attacks, is that the US did know about it but didnt prevent it. The idea that the US was behing the hijacking and crashed the planes and blew up the towers aswell is CRAZY. Those are the kind of idea that give ppl on websites like this bad names. even a idealistic impressionistic kid like myself finds that to be even a bit far fetched. Even tho the US has slaughterd far more ppl. but, the idea that they where behing these attacks is crazy. Now, what part of my previous posts gave you the idea that i was infavor or bushs conquest in the middle east? ill strait up say it...even tho this could probly land me on some terrorist watch list. i visit iran every yr or so, and the propoganda on both sides portraying the other country is horrible. In iran, america is portrayed as a "beautiful free country, with no crime or poverty, where everyone is happy and free" and the total reverse is happening here. Iran is portrayed as some underdeveled mud and grass house no infrastructure country (which its not, infact lots of the areas are alooot nicer than here). but regardless of that, the ppl of Iran want the US to come in and shove there "freedom" dwn there throats. if you recall the rule of the shaw, where iran and US were closely allied, the people of iran werent recieving any of the benifits, the shaw was a crock and so are the ayotollas who rule iran currently. so, i guess you hafta look at the better of 2 evils. 1st evil is the status quo and the alternative, the US invading with there military and raping the ppl of there resources and setting up a puppet governments. but thats a whole differnt subject.just wanted to clarify my points. 1)the US wasnt behind da 9/11 attacks they simple just didnt prevent them for reasons explained in my first post. 2)I am against bushs conquest in the middle east

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              Re: No Doubt
              Posted on: 2005-02-19 09:36:55   By: zorglub
               
              For telling such self-contradictory non-sense you "hafta" be a spook. Doesn't the CIA manual teaches you to avoid gross inconsistences?

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          Re: No Doubt
          Posted on: 2005-02-18 02:46:38   By: Anonymous
           
          Dear 408,

          You are no doubt a poor 'believes everything he reads' indoctrinated 'God Bless America' HIGHSCHOOL SOPHOMORON.

          Open your eyes, train your brain, learn to reason, and maybe read and spell, and find out by what bunch of merciless puppets of the US weapons industry your 'wonderful' country is ahem... 'governed'.

          Remember he words of president Dwight Eisenhower who already warned us for what's been going on since and is getting worse every day.

          I feel deeply sorry for all honest hardworking and as ever way too naive sods still believing in the so-called American dream, and much more so for the true victims of this dreamland of limitless consumption who are slaving themselves to death somewhere in what we dare call "under-developed countries". They are the ones who are really paying the bill, often even with their lifes.

          If people resent the USA couldn't it be because it is bringing them 'liberty and democracy', at gun-point, whether they want it or not. What's worse is that the US government doesn't seems to have a problem with eradicating people who dare refuse this so-called democracy. Quite like the Third Reich's government...

          Besides, adopting the 'American way' most often means deterioration of quality of life, raised work pressure and stress, immediate plunge of quality of food and certainly taste, deterioration of inter-human relationships, steep rise in production of waste, cost of life and crime, etc.

          AND YOU DARE CALL THAT PROGRESS? NO THANKS !!!


          [Reply ]

    Re: No Doubt
    Posted on: 2005-02-01 20:40:36   By: Anonymous
      Edited By: Phil_Jayhan
    On: 2005-02-01 21:15:22
    Basic Stupidity

    Comment removed because of immature, offensive language. And your IP has been banned from the website and forums. No Lets Roll for you, 1 year! Next!

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      Re: No Doubt
      Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:19:40   By: Anonymous
       
      I wasn't the author of the comments but I must wonder what your definition is of basic stupidity, as most of the other comments are just full of it. *wink wink* *nudge nudge* guess who the biased hypocrite is now.
      brought to you by
      *the Texan*

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      Re: No Doubt
      Posted on: 2005-02-12 17:49:08   By: Anonymous
       
      *bleep* opff and die you idiots

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    Re: No Doubt
    Posted on: 2005-02-06 12:18:58   By: Anonymous
     
    Zerohour said:
    George W. Bush is guilty of treason!


    Prove it.

    I believe that also, and I would die a happy person if only it could be proven.

    Where is the PROOF?



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    Re: No Doubt
    Posted on: 2005-02-07 01:55:49   By: Anonymous
     
    Dear Sir
    Would like to inform you that I am 100% sure that Bush administration have planned 911 events to get the full approval of the American & Western world green light to get wild. I did get intouch with Aljezeera Channel on Sept. 13 namely to Mr. Sami Hadad informing him that what happened it is 100% against Aviation law simply because I am well qualified aviation engineer but with regret they didi not pay that much attention to my message.
    Any intellegence office as big as CIA could have easily planned such hype.
    Best regards.
    Dr. Saad Sulaiman

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      Re: No Doubt
      Posted on: 2005-02-09 07:22:00   By: Anonymous
       
      Hi Dr. Saad,

      they possibly ignored you because you don't provide any information as to why you think Mr. George W. Bush is guilty. Stop complaining and use your experience just here. I promise I will read :)

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      Re: No Doubt
      Posted on: 2005-02-09 07:25:04   By: Anonymous
       
      Hi Mr. Saad,

      They possibly ignored you because you don't provide any information! As a knowledgeable man, why don't you prove Mr. Bush is guilty? Promise, I will read :)

      Orhan ODABASI

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      Re: No Doubt
      Posted on: 2005-02-15 20:48:11   By: Anonymous
       
      Dr. Saad is well, just sad.

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    Re: No Doubt
    Posted on: 2005-02-09 10:50:27   By: Anonymous
     
    Bush is guilty of treason, he was told of the attack and did nothing is everyone just ignoring the fact that when he was told about the first plane, he just kept going with his photo shoot... this is not the action of the leader of amercia but of a treasonous coward hiding behind his wealth and cheated position.

    Ninja-Girl

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    Re: No Doubt
    Posted on: 2005-02-09 22:10:20   By: Anonymous
     
    Jet fuel burns at 800 to 1500F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

    So I guess Bush found this writer and bribed him to write his book AND make these comments to Popular Mechanics...
    has anybody ever heard of Occam's Razor?

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      Re: No Doubt
      Posted on: 2005-02-10 03:48:14   By: Anonymous
       
      Right after the attack there was an article that quoted a Prof. Hyman Brown from the University of Colorado at Boulder of why the WTC collapsed. So I did a search on Prof. Brown, and came up with some very interesting information.

      1. He's not a Professor, but a senior instructor. Some articles even quoted him as Dr. Hyman Brown. But then it started getting really interesting.

      2. If you go to the URL http://bechtel.colorado.edu/new/faculty/people/people.cgi?faculty
      you'll find Hyman Brown, and notice his picture.

      Now if you go to URL
      http://civil.colorado.edu/web/people/index.html
      you'll find Hyman Brown listed there also, but notice his picture.

      Then the name in the first URL, BECHTEL caught my attention.
      I knew I had read the name somewhere, but couldn't put my finger
      on it. Then it came to me, Haliburton, as in Cheney's Haliburton.

      A lot of interesting information regarding Bechtel and Haliburton when you do a search for Bechtel Haliburton Iraq

      http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bechtel+haliburton+iraq&btnG=Google+Search

      And why would the University have the name Bechtel included in their URL, and there's no way the two Hyman Brown's are the same person.

      And the second Hyman Brown, under the University's URL isn't old enough to have been the construction manager for the WTC, as the articles claimed he was.

      I just found it odd, and interesting and thought I would pass on the information.

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There are Many Anomolies
Posted on: 2005-01-31 17:50:23   By: Anonymous
 
But now what? What are we to do? What have we done besides reading the same material over and over? It seems to me that we have accepted the reality and we are simply documenting it. What about an actual movement that moves, to eliminate those negative forces that have infiltrated our government and whom are restricting YOU and me from our freedoms. What are YOU going to do? Are YOU going to take a stand or are you going to document the reality that has been put forth.

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    Re: There are Many Anomolies
    Posted on: 2005-01-31 18:08:19   By: Zerohour
     
    Dude, word is getting out, for proof of that simply look at this link

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    Re: There are Many Anomolies
    Posted on: 2005-02-01 06:55:41   By: Anonymous
     
    As JFKII.com makes clear, BushCo is a family crime syndicate that has been a middle man for the ruling elites for decades. Taking even one of them down would endanger those ruling elites.

    I look at 9/11 Truth this way:

    In 2001, people were in shock.
    In 2002, people had a lot of questions.
    In 2003, people's questions became suspicions.
    In 2004, people's suspicions became convictions.
    In 2005, people will act on their convictions.

    BushCo is passing as many "color of law" legislations as they can to terrify the public into submission but fear only lasts so long and vengeance tends to last a lot longer.

    The main problems of the past few years have been the deliberate fracturing of the 9/11 Truth movement by "Peak Oil" and similar unrelated scams. "Peak Oil" has *nothing* to do with prosecuting the crimes of 9/11 but so-called "leaders" of the 9/11 Truth movement are passing it off as somehow related to 9/11.

    Add to that, some very poor lawsuits such as the recently dismissed Hilton lawsuit and you get a feeling of hopelessness, which is exactly what some of these bogus lawsuits and fraudulent efforts are geared towards.

    This URL is right on point:

    http://onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/012805Floum/012805floum.html

    This is the year we *prosecute* the EPA fraud, the illegal removal of WTC evidence and other known crimes. After we fry a few fish, it will be time to fry some of those middle fish on our way to shutting down the so-called New World Order.

    Please support the reopen911.org effort.

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      Re: There are Many Anomolies
      Posted on: 2005-02-09 16:46:09   By: Anonymous
       
      I concur with your timeline on the reaction/involvement of the the American people to the event of 9-11. After the "attacks" I told my wife that these events we are seeing will have a different story in the future. That day, I said at the time Bush was involved; I have not changed my mind, yet have more information to support this conclusion.

      I have been informing many friends, family and co-workers about the other side of the "official" version. In my research and reading "Crossing the Rubicon" by M Rupert I am convinced that Peak Oil has everything to do with the events that took place on 9-11. Peak Oil provides the motive behind what took place




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    Re: There are Many Anomolies
    Posted on: 2005-02-03 01:44:29   By: Anonymous
     
    Just keep telling more amd more people. I've burned about 500 copies of In Plane Site out of my own pocket. People keep coming back to me "I had no idea". I think this is the most dangerous time for our country since the Civil War. THANK YOU - Jay, Micheal Rupert,Micheal Moore, Alex Jones and especially Dave Vonklest, who gave me the first red pill.I know now for a fact that Bush and his New World Order Mafia is guilty treason and mass murder and you guys have gave me the tools to show everybody.LET'S TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!TELL EVERYBODY

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      Re: There are Many Anomolies
      Posted on: 2005-02-16 02:26:44   By: Anonymous
       
      with a tear in my eye...why are ppl so not informed to let a guy like bush into office

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pathetic
Posted on: 2005-02-02 22:31:12   By: Anonymous
 
this site deletes posts opposing their beliefs, HA! TRULY BULL

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    Re: pathetic
    Posted on: 2005-02-03 03:57:04   By: Anonymous
     
    Not only that, but does anyone really believe that over 1100 different people voted on this stupidity? This sites has nowhere near the traffic to justify that. More like 100 votes from each of these conspiracy nuts. :D

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      Re: pathetic
      Posted on: 2005-02-03 13:43:56   By: Zerohour
       
      Dude, check the Who's online box, and thats just the last 5 minutes!

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        Re: pathetic
        Posted on: 2005-02-07 16:53:50   By: Anonymous
         
        I see you deleted my post regarding the inaccuracy of the "who's online" figure listed at the bottom of the page.

        Why is that?

        I mentioned that it could quite easily be faked or manipulated, and that the browser worm that redirects traffic to this site could also throw off that figure significantly.

        And you have the audacity to claim that this site doesn't censor? What about what user Kaha says in the post directly below? It was not abusive, nor a troll, and I certainly am not a moron... so what gives?

        No wonder you guys have credibility problems.

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          Re: pathetic
          Posted on: 2005-02-07 18:02:57   By: kaha
            Edited By: kaha
          On: 2005-02-07 18:58:10
          "What about what user Kaha says in the post directly below? It was not abusive, nor a troll, and I certainly am not a moron... so what gives?"

          That response was general, and not directed at you. I didn't have a chance to read your post, and have no idea what it said. I'm against censorship in general; if the post was not abusive or an obvious troll, perhaps whoever deleted it would care to explain why.

          EDIT- *scrolls up*
          Ah, it was deleted by the owner of the board and the website. And he can delete anything he wants to. :)

          Also:

          "I mentioned that it could quite easily be faked or manipulated, and that the browser worm that redirects traffic to this site could also throw off that figure significantly."

          The worm that affects crummy operating systems (Windows) and buggy browsers (IE) doesn't have any effect on the server side of things. If you were one of the people who were directed here because of the worm, plaease accept my apologies. It angered all of us here, as well.


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    Re: pathetic
    Posted on: 2005-02-05 03:33:12   By: kaha
     
    No, it deletes abusive trolls from morons.


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      Re: pathetic
      Posted on: 2005-02-09 20:25:01   By: Anonymous
       
      ... riiiiiiiiiight....

      (note: I am not the same as the other guy who posted anonymously above. just so you don't get confused.)

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hmm
Posted on: 2005-02-02 23:44:23   By: Anonymous
 
one thing I can say. This site is definitely somewhere on the gov't watch list.

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    Re: hmm
    Posted on: 2005-02-09 20:27:41   By: Anonymous
     
    No, I don't think the government keeps watch lists of sites run by useless morons. You could achieve the same result by printing out the Google results for "911 conspiracy"

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get a life!
Posted on: 2005-02-03 00:08:37   By: Anonymous
 
wtf?!?

All you libs honestly believe that 9/11 is our President's fault? Yyou are all very sick... I am sure that y'all think if gore were President, then it wouldn't have happened... If any President advertently got us into a war is was the great Democrat Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Anyway, you guys need to sort out your priorities.

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    Re: get a life!
    Posted on: 2005-02-03 00:13:14   By: Phil_Jayhan
      Edited By: Phil_Jayhan
    On: 2005-02-03 00:15:17
    Actually, I voted for Bush in 2000, and was a Republican. Now I belong to no party. As the Democrats are opposite in most of my own beliefs. This has nothing to do with partisan politics. I am a conservative still. But no longer a Republican. And FYI, before I found the truth about 911, I had always blindly followed the Republican party, because their platform is closest to my own, while still worlds apart...

    And I am the Founder of this Website.



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      Sorry to hear that!
      Posted on: 2005-02-04 10:55:03   By: Anonymous
       
      I am always disheartened to hear good people say that they are or were Republikans. But hopefully these values were prior to your introduction into the true reality of Amerika?! Check out A People's History of the United States... by Howard Zinn.

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      Founder
      Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:42:46   By: Anonymous
       
      I must congradulate you on a forming one of the funniest sites I have come across in awhile! The free entertainment provided by these conspirators is amazingly funny. Their comments and "proofs" merit recognition, not for substance, but for dimwittedness and hypocrisy. I look forward to more comments such as these.
      brought to you by
      *the Texan*

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        Re: Founder
        Posted on: 2005-02-08 23:54:39   By: Anonymous
         
        Here;'s a fact, not a theory for you. On 9/11 Wackenhut
        Security was in charge of airport security for all three
        airports where the planes were supposedly hijacked.
        Wackenhut Security, owned and operated by ex-CIA/FBI
        agents, receives 98% of all government security contracts,
        Bush has teamed them up with FEMA, and they've recently
        replaced the security at both West Point and Annapolis. 90
        days after the 9/11attacks, Weackenhut Security informed
        Washington-Dulles and Newark International they were
        getting out of the airport security business, so they were
        replaced. Yet three years later they're still doing airport
        security around the US.

        The FAA doesn't re-issue tail numbers or flight numbers
        of crashed flights. So maybe you can explain how it is on
        April 10, 2003 Mr. Friedman, a pilot for United Airlines
        flew the 757 with the tail number N591UA, the same tail
        number as flight 93 ?

        Now supposedly one of the main purposes of the 9/11
        commission was to find out how the attacks were
        allowed to happen in the first place.

        Now one would think finding out how it is that 19
        supposed hijackers managed to get past passenger
        security check to enter the terminal area without
        having tickets, and especially how they boarded
        4 airplanes without tickets or boarding passes,
        would have been one of the first questions the
        commission would want to find out.

        But apparently the commission wasn't interested,
        as Wackenhut Security wasn't asked those questions,
        or any other questions by the 9/11 commission.

        Given the fact that flight 93 had 38 passengers with
        5 flight attendents, with a capacity of 219, flight 77
        had 57 passengers, with 7 flight attendents, again
        with a capcity of 219, etc., I'm amazed any airline
        company wasting this amount of money per flight
        is even in business. I've flown a lot of flights, and
        99.9 % were either full or close to it, didn't matter
        if it was the red eye, 8 am or 1-3 PM, yet they only
        had 4-5 attendents on the flights. If anything, the
        airlines has fewer flight attendents than need, yet
        the flights on 9/11 for every 7-8 passengers, they
        had their own flight attendent ? Now that would
        be a first.

        Being well aware there were still two airliners
        somewhere in the air and their targets unknown,
        one has to wonder why there was never a fighter
        jet scrambled to protect Air Force One when they
        left Florida Only someone who knew they were
        never in any danger would know there was no
        need for protection.

        These are just a few of the hundreds of facts that the
        Bush government planned and carried out the 9/11
        attacks. Ignoring them isn't going
        to change them.

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      Wow.
      Posted on: 2005-02-08 14:23:35   By: Anonymous
       
      I just saw this site mentioned in Popular Mechanics. You people are really out to lunch. I believe there is plent of room in Canada for anyone who truly believes these theories.

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        Re: Wow.
        Posted on: 2005-02-09 20:32:33   By: Anonymous
         
        ditto here.

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    Re: get a life!
    Posted on: 2005-02-05 03:36:05   By: kaha
      Edited By: kaha
    On: 2005-02-05 06:23:40
    Spoken like a true dittohead.

    Why do you assume that we're "libs"?
    Because that's the only thing that fits into your childishly oversimplified, black-and-white mental framework?


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      Re: get a life!
      Posted on: 2005-02-06 12:15:58   By: Anonymous
       
      I agree.

      I'm a very liberal democrat, and I think all this conspiracy nonsense about 9/11 is just plain paranoid stupidity... all you see here is questions and speculation, but not one shred, not a single iota of hard proveable substantiated evidence to support any of it. Ask for proof, and all you get is questions in return... pathetic indeed.

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        Re: get a life!
        Posted on: 2005-02-07 01:19:56   By: Anonymous
         
        The proof is in the video evidence.

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          get a CLUE!
          Posted on: 2005-02-07 11:42:11   By: Anonymous
           
          Your interpretation of the videos does not constitute proof of anything... except perhaps how misguided and paranoid you crackpot conspiracy theorists are. Your interpretations of the video images are merely conjecture and speculation, if not downright deception and lies.

          PROOF:
          - something that induces certainty or establishes validity.
          - evidence operating to determine the finding or judgment of a tribunal.
          - a test applied to articles or substances to determine whether they are of standard or satisfactory quality.


          Your so-called 'proof' contains none of these qualities. It appears that your definitiion of proof and my definition of proof are two totally different definitions. Your so-called 'proof' contains none of the standard and commonly accepted qualities outlined by any dictionary. None, zero, zip, zilch, nada. What you call proof everyone else with a minimal sense of logic calls unsupported insistence.

          Until you can provide real, solid, undeniable proof to support these nutty speculations, you'll just keep spinning your wheels futilely, because you will only be preaching to your own self-deluded choir of whackos. Nobody with 1/4 of a brain, nor anyone with any credibility, would stand behind what you claim to be proof.

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            Re: get a CLUE!
            Posted on: 2005-02-07 17:58:21   By: kaha
             
            Please explain to us how these 19 "hijackers", without being caught on surveillance video in the airports where they allegedly boarded the doomed flights (even though four of them were supposed to have been detained), managed to cause WTC7 to collapse without even bothering to fly a jetliner into it?

            Examine photos and video clips of Building 7, a 47 story, steel framed structure. You'll see that it was not damaged by debris from the collapsing towers, and that it only had small fires burning on a couple floors.
            Yet it collapsed that afternoon, falling neatly down as through a controlled demolition.
            Why?


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            Re: get a CLUE!
            Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:19:53   By: kaha
             
            Come on, guys. I'm waiting for the explanation.


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              Re: get a CLUE!
              Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:28:00   By: Anonymous
               
              refer to my comment near bottom about PM showing y'all up...
              brought to you by
              *the Texan*

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            Re: get a CLUE!
            Posted on: 2005-02-15 06:00:27   By: Anonymous
             
            IF PROOF FIT IN WITH YOUR PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS, YOU WOULD POUND YOUR FIST INTO YOUR CHEST AND CALL IT YOUR OWN

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No Subject
Posted on: 2005-02-03 00:21:54   By: Ducati_749
 
BUSH + PNAC = The Real Terrorists!

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Who's running the show...?
Posted on: 2005-02-03 03:35:17   By: Anonymous
 
In the 60's we knew that big corporations were running the U.S. Government and military.

In the 2000's we realize that the Big Banking System via the Federal Reserve and the super-wealthy Illuminati banking organizations control everythingm including Government, Mass Media, Education and possibly organized religion...

How do you stand up against the "land-lords" who virtually OWN THE EARTH...?

If you had 90% of the world/s money (600 Trillion dollars) you could feed a lot of hungry people.

Or buy the media and governments...

Free Press is necessary for any shred of democracy to exist.

NESRA NOW! (www.nesara.us)

Best Wishes,
Stan P.

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    Re: Who's running the show...?
    Posted on: 2005-02-08 01:30:40   By: Anonymous
     
    Just wondering where you got the stats that they have 90% of the world's wealth and that amounts to 600 trillion.
    I didn't think they had 90% yet anyway.

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THE WALKING DEAD
Posted on: 2005-02-03 22:52:23   By: Anonymous
  Edited By: Phil_Jayhan
On: 2005-02-03 23:43:27
Removed Suggestion of violence, Thanks for the support

I THINK EVERY TRUE AMERICAN SHOULD DO ALL THEY CAN TO TELL EVERYBODY THEY COME INTO CONTACT WITH ABOUT 911. JUST LOOK THE PHOTOS & VIDEOS ....... U SEE C-4 GOING OFF IN THE BUILDINGS& THE FAMOUS FLASH. IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP & RISE UP. BTW, THIS IS COMMING TO YOU LIVE FROM THE HEART OF DIXIE IN SOUTH ALABAMA & I'M DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF WHO'S BEHIND 911. HELP SUPPORT THE TRUTH ABOUT 911 & SUPPORT THE MAVERICK NEWSLETTER!

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    Re: THE WALKING DEAD
    Posted on: 2005-02-03 23:32:30   By: Anonymous
     
    LOL. You people will believe anything you're told won't you? The videos are blurry, very blurry. That means thats they are edited. You people need to (as stated above) get a clue.

    PS: Thankyou for all that backed my first post up.


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      Re: THE WALKING DEAD
      Posted on: 2005-02-04 04:18:26   By: coffeelover
        Edited By: coffeelover
      On: 2005-02-04 04:25:40
      An ole by the way.......

      Nope. I just do not believe media outlets who twists the real truth and shove it in your face.

      PS: I can tell you are a regular to these forums. Cut and paste bold form on your post. Smells like a RAT to me. lol.....

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      Re: THE WALKING DEAD
      Posted on: 2005-02-04 08:57:07   By: Anonymous
        Edited By: Phil_Jayhan
      On: 2005-02-04 08:59:54
      ... Sure. Like Iraq had lots of WMD, ready to destroy the world. The governement would never lie. Especialy if the lie implies the death of thousands of innocents...

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        Re: THE WALKING DEAD
        Posted on: 2005-02-04 12:32:58   By: Anonymous
         
        Actually, I have never posted here before. I got that pain in the butt virus that sets your homepage to this site and decided to look around. Im too lazy to fix it. The bold also makes your comments more noticable, plus it helps show I am the same guy that posted previously.

        And have you gotten a good come-back to the editing? That's right... NO because it was edited.

        Honestly, thats like listening to static on a TV and claiming you heard voices. You can hear or see whatever you WANT to believe.


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          Re: THE WALKING DEAD
          Posted on: 2005-02-04 19:13:05   By: Phil_Jayhan
           
          Blurry? Not so blurry one can't still clearly tell whats going on. Nice try.

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            Re: THE WALKING DEAD
            Posted on: 2005-02-05 17:26:39   By: Anonymous
             
            PHIL JAYHAN & JOHN GAITIA

            I JUST POSTED TO THE WALKING DEAD " THE WALKING DEAD IS A C.I.A. SPOOK......WHY IS IT GONE NOW??? DO U NOT LIKE ME POINTING OUT THE FACT THAT THE WALKING DEAD ACTS LIKE A SPOOK

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            Blurry
            Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:32:17   By: Anonymous
             
            ah but one sees what they want to see. is that a bulge? must be a military pod...nothing else could explain it...

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              Re: Blurry
              Posted on: 2005-02-09 20:39:23   By: Anonymous
               
              ... If I may quote Ronald Greeley, director of the Space Photography Laboratory at Arizona State, and a renowned expert at analyzing images to determine shapes based on shadow and light effects, who dismissed the idea that photographs reveal a "pod", saying that it was most likely light glinting off the part of the plane that contains the landing gear... "Such a glint causes a blossoming (enlargement to you retarded wackjobs) on film which tends to be amplified in digital versions of images-the pixels are saturated [with light] and tend to 'spill over' to adjacent pixels."

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                Re: Blurry
                Posted on: 2005-02-19 10:35:15   By: Anonymous
                 
                how do some pixels "spill" and others on the same picture do not? Did you make this up?... Pixels do not spill you idiots....nice try...

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      Re: THE WALKING DEAD
      Posted on: 2005-02-05 03:23:12   By: kaha
       
      "Blurry"?
      You mean like the five lousy frames that the Pentagon released, purporting to show a jetliner slamming into the building, but which show no such thing?
      Where are the missing frames?
      And where are the other videos that were confiscated, from the CITGO, the Sheraton, and the VDOT cam?


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    Re: THE WALKING DEAD
    Posted on: 2005-02-05 05:17:17   By: Anonymous
     
    DUDE WHY NOT SUGGEST VIOLENCE!!!! I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS BUT A LITTLE VIOLENCE IS GOOD HERE . I'M NOT THE ONE WHO'S BLOWING UP BUILDINGS . SCAREING OLD LADIES WITH "THE WAR ON TERROR". I SUGGESTED VIOLENCE TOWARDS THE ONES WHO DID THIS AKA THE INLIGHTENED ONES.... SKULL & BONES,BOHEM. GROVE GUYS,FREEMAISONS,BILDERBERGS,TRI.COMMISSION,CFR,WHO ELSE???
    P.S. GIVE ME SOME VIDEO & PHOTOS OF THE SECOND PLANE HITTING THE BUILDING BUT I WANT VIDEO THAT IS FOCUSED ON THE 1ST PLANE CRASH THE ENTIRE TIME...THERE ARE LITTLE BOMBS GOING OFF ON THE FLOORS ABOVE THE PLANE CRASH THUS WEAKING THE FLOORS ABOVE WRECKAGE MAKE IT FALL "BETTER"? UNLESS U ARE A NAZI C.I.A. SPOOK OR A F.B.I. SPOOKOR JUST A NO GOOD DIRTY SPOOK U ARE A MORON IF U THINK THIS INFO ON THIS SITE IS FAKE I HAVE HISTORY CHANNEL FOOTAGE THAT HAS THE SAME "FLASHES" WATCH THE BUILDINGS FALL RIGHT UNDER THE RUBBLE FALLING TO THE STREETS THERE ARE C4 OR DYNOPLEX BOMBS GOING OFF WEAKING THE BUILDING IT'S ALL THERE U ARE TO STUPID TO SEE IT .PEOPLE SAY AWWWW THAT'S SOMETHING IN THE BUILDING BREAKING & COMMING OUT THE WALLS.....THERE'S NOTHING COMMING OUT OF THE WALLS BUT EXPLOSIVE FORCE FROM A BOMB....JUST ASK THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THREW IT THEY SAY THERE WAS BOMBS GOING OFF EVERYWHERE...FIREFIGHTERS SAY IT TO...I HAVE CHIEF OF FIRE & SAFTY SAYING " HE THINKS THE BUILDINGS HADS BOMBS LACED THREW IT & HE SAID THE PLANE HAD BOMBS ON IT ALSO HE LOST ALOT OF FF'S IN THEM SECOND EXPLOSIVES GOING OFF" DO YOUR RESEARCH U DIRTY NO GOOD NARCS & SPOOKS WHO SIDE ARE YALL ON ANYWAYS????

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      Re: THE WALKING DEAD
      Posted on: 2005-02-07 12:56:50   By: Anonymous
       
      Hey, i think your caps lock key is broken, you should fix it.

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      Dear Walking Idiot
      Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:38:23   By: Anonymous
       
      haha your definitly not one of the enlightened ones apparently. survivors to "bombs going off everywhere"? hmm don't you think they'd be dead? or maybe its just something else created to fuel your imaginary revolution. keep at it, keeps us sane people entertained!
      brought to you by
      *the Texan*

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    Re: THE WALKING DEAD
    Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:25:39   By: Anonymous
     
    wow...you must be a genius Walking Dead to be able to see all that C-4 in these beautifully buzzy photographs... by the way, I don't think South Alabama needs convincing that the US attacked itself, they need convincing out of endogamia...
    brought to you by
    *the Texan*

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    Re: THE WALKING DEAD
    Posted on: 2005-02-09 16:56:36   By: Anonymous
     
    I have been posting my list of questions on Yahoo news stories response section. Here is are my questions which I have discovered answers to over the past few months.

    PENTAGON
    • Why wasn’t there any plane debris or burnt lawn at the seen of the crash?
    • Why was the hole only 16’ in diameter when a 737 is 26’ in diameter.
    • Why didn’t the impact marks on the building account for the two engines?
    • Why was the security camera in the gas station aiming at the Pentagon confiscated by the FBI only five minutes after the “crash”?
    • Why was water sprayed on a jet fuel fire and not foam?

    AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL
    • Why weren’t any military jets scramble when the flights went off course?
    • Why were the flights unaccounted for and not on FAA radar?
    • Why were there War Game using the scenario of a domestic flight being hijacked and flown into buildings occurring the day before and the morning of 9/11?
    • What is Global Hawk and when did it become operational? What affiliation did the four Raytheon engineers onboard the 9/11 flights have with Global Hawk?

    WTC COLLAPSE
    • Why did the concrete create pulverized dust and not just crumble with a “gravitational” collapse?
    • Where was the large pile on concrete rubble from the “gravitational collapse”?
    • Why was the dust on the ground around the building symmetrical?
    • What created the kinetic energy to pulverize concrete at the beginning of the “gravitational” collapse?
    • Where happened to the angular momentum of the top section on the South tower after it began to “tip over”?
    • How did the concrete poured steel reinforced core fail if the floors pancaked onto themselves?
    • How did an oxygen starved, low temperature fire created enough heat to elongate the steel beams to induce a buckling load to cause the attachment joints to fail?
    • What caused the external forces to eject the debris outward up to 500’ beyond the foot print of the building?
    • What created the intense heat to melt 4 inch steel beams 70 feet below the ground and retain the heat for up to three weeks?
    • Who ran security at the WTC buildings?
    • Why did the building fall at free fall velocities?
    • What caused the two seismic spikes registered 20 miles from ground zero?
    • Why was all the evidence of the collapse taken off site and sent over seas?
    • Controlled Demolition Inc was awarded the contract to clean up ground zero. What other clean-up projects were they awarded?
    • Why has there not been an investigation of 9/11 by anyone other that FEMA? (note FEMA is not an investigating branch of the government)
    • Where did the original official version of the collapse come from? Who provided the back up support and where does he work? Why is the final official version not complete, yet the original version has not been disputed?

    WTC 7
    • What caused the collapse of WTC 7?
    • What was stored in WTC 7?
    • Who owned WTC 7, when did he acquire it and how much does he stand to profit from the insurance claims?

    BUSINESS TIES
    • What do Halliburton, The Caspian Sea Basin and Peak Oil have in common?
    • Why is the US at war in Iraq when Osama bin Ladin was accused of the attacks?
    • Who is Mike Vreeland and what does he know?
    • Why do 8 of the 10 people assigned to the 9-11 Commission have a conflict of interest with “Big Oil”
    • Why is the Chair of the 9-11 Commission (Thomas Kean) on the board for Armanda Hess oil Company which is deeply involved with the Caspian Sea Basin pipeline?
    • Where has main street media been on these topics for the past three years and why?

    Want some answers?

    http://911research.wtc7.net/
    http://911review.org/
    http://911truth.org/
    http://reopen911.org/
    http://www.wanttoknow.info/9-11timeline60pg
    http://www.sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/1548412.php
    http://www.exit23.com/9-11/
    http://www.letsroll911.org
    http://www.americanfreepress.net/Conspiracy/Fire_Engineers_Call_WTC_Probe/fire_engineers_call_wtc_probe.html
    http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/experts/articles/eagar_jom/eagar_0112.html
    http://www.rense.com/general59/esFBICIAagentsready.htm
    http://www.serendipity.li/wot/aa11.html



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i want the truth
Posted on: 2005-02-04 21:07:54   By: Anonymous
 
sure looks fishy to me

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A 9/11 activist from Europe
Posted on: 2005-02-05 04:33:10   By: JohnGaita
  Edited By: JohnGaita
On: 2005-02-05 04:47:14

After seeing what happened on 9/11 I thought something was very wrong with the official story. I mean, I wasn't born yesterday: how come four planes are hijacked and travel for hours in the most restricted space from planet Heart without being at least intercepted? One year later I began to see some books about it, some websites, and then I found out LetsRoll911 and others. After almost two years of research on 9/11 I have absolutely no doubt in my mind: the people in charge in USA planned and executed those terrorist attacks, and many others on this planet - all with the active complicity from the others so-called democratic governments and the media. When I say people in charge I don't mean Bush and company, the people you see on TV are merely puppets, they obey orders but they know very well about the holocausts they make every day while profiting trillions out of it.

It's up to you to open up your mind and the all the minds you can, and join this global fight against global tyranny!


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    Re: A 9/11 activist from Europe
    Posted on: 2005-02-05 22:53:21   By: Anonymous
     
    It would be stupid if the US was responsible.I mean comon
    just what reasion would they have to do an ideotick thing!
    I say who ever came up with the idea that it was Bush's
    or the US's falt is just ignorant and pairanoyed.Just think
    about it ok?

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      Re: A 9/11 activist from Europe
      Posted on: 2005-02-08 06:37:22   By: kaha
       
      YOU think about it. We already have.
      Think about the instant justification to invade two countries, both of which we wanted to invade anyway. Think about the legislation that's been rushed through Congress; the homeland security bill, the "patriot act", and more. Do you know that a United States citizen can now be whisked off to an undisclosed location, with no charges and no legal recourse, for an indefinate period? He/she simply has to be considered a "terrorist", a term which was purposefully only very vaguely defined.

      This is unheard of.
      And the nation is filled with flag-waving idiots, who either don't know this or don't care.


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      Re: A 9/11 activist from Europe
      Posted on: 2005-02-09 01:45:15   By: Anonymous
       
      Let's say that 9/11 didn't take place, just how many
      American's do you think would be willing to go
      along with invading Afghanistan for no reason,
      foot the bills, and sacrifice their lives ? ZERO.

      The oil companies/Bush were in negotiations with
      the Taliban about building an oil pipeline through
      Afghanistan, but the Taliban ended those negotiations
      in May, 2001. Bush had also given the Taliban $40
      million in March 2001. When this was found out,
      Powell claimed it was for relief aid to the Afghani
      people. Apparently he forgot we had already given
      $50 million, then another $150 million, all through the
      UN, which is the procedure, and not directly to the
      Taliban.

      By attacking the US on 9/11 and a few hours after the
      attack, Bush blames Bin Laden as responsible, the
      mastermind and just happen to be in Afghanistan.
      Bush puts his puppet Hamid in power, who had
      worked for Unocal, and on May 30, 2002, he, Turkey
      and Pakistan just happen to sign the agreement for
      the approval of the new oil pipeline.

      Once that was signed, Bin Laden was of no concern
      to Bush, regardless it cost 9,000+ innocent people
      their lives, he got his oil pipeline, with the American
      people paying for it, and the soldiers who lost their
      lives for it. All based on lies.

      In 2002 under the Taliban rule there was 80 tons of
      cocaine exported, but under the US in 2003 there was
      300+ tons exported thanks to the CIA drug trafficking
      network. And the American people are paying the bills,
      with the War on Drugs scam.

      But it's all about oil, and lots of it. From the oil reserves
      in Iraq, the Caspian and Black Sea, etc., and wanting to
      be in control of it all. If you want a sure bet, then bet on
      Bush invading Iran. Look at any middle east map showing
      the Caspian and Black Sea, and you'll see why.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2005-02-05 17:30:32   By: Anonymous
 
ANYONE OUT THERE ONLINE SEEING THIS RIGHT NOW?????

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2005-02-05 17:31:35   By: Anonymous
     
    LETS' CHAT WHERE ARE U MR.C.I.A. MAN?????

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2005-02-05 17:49:58   By: kaha
     
    Could you do us all a favor, and turn your caps-lock key off?


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      Re: Re:
      Posted on: 2005-02-05 22:26:06   By: Anonymous
       
      LOL! If the government supposably planted bombs in the buildings then why did one of the planes miss and no damamge occured??? Exactly, there are no bombs involved. Plus, how to possibly think the bombs could be planted??? Agencies work together on all security matters, so if the CIA did plant bombs, then the NSA would have caught them WAY before anything happened. GET A CLUE!

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        Re: Re:
        Posted on: 2005-02-05 23:12:21   By: Anonymous
         
        u get a clue all of them work together c.i.a n.s.a.f.b.i. ext. they are all the same. don't believe me just look at the videos of the buildings falling & u can see this READ what the survivors said about bombs.i've read reports that the wtc towers where being "worked on" n the weeks be4 911. hole floors at a time would be shut done 4 maintenance.WHAT I DON'T GET IS WHAT ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T BELIEVE THE GOV DID THIS DOING N HERE. YOU MUST KNOW SOMETHING IS UP OR U WOULDN'T BE HERE OR MAYBE YOU ARE HERE JUST WATCHING LIKE THE NAZI U ARE

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          Re: Re:
          Posted on: 2005-02-06 04:41:18   By: Anonymous
           
          Read previous posts, I got that virus that sets your homepage to this site.

          And I know for a FACT that the CIA and NSA do not work together. The CIA dn FBI do, but the NSA is a seperated agency. DUMBA**


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            Re: Re:
            Posted on: 2005-02-06 21:00:32   By: Anonymous
             
            OK KIDS IN A "SPECIAL OP" AS LARGE AS 911 THESE ARE THE "GROUPS" INVOLVED READY.....C.I.A.,F.B.I.,N.S.A.,MOSSAD,AMERICAN AIRLINERS,UNITED AIRLINERS,F.E.M.A.,WHITE HOUSE, 911 COMMISSION, ALL THE CORPERATE MEDIA OUTLETS,WALLSTREET,WTC OWNER,THE CONSTRUSTION COMPANY THAT CLEANED UP THE WTC & REMOVED IT, MAYOR OF NEW YORK,AIR FORCE COMMANDER,HEADS OF NORAD, & MANY MANY MORE. 911 WAS THE BIGGEST SPECIAL OP IN HISTORY

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              Re: Re:
              Posted on: 2005-02-06 23:01:57   By: Anonymous
               
              They also have private agencies designed seperated from GOV officials, they are DESIGNED to keep the NSA, CIA, FBI in order. The agencies had nothing to do with it.

              You forgot SS too idiot


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              Re: Re:
              Posted on: 2005-02-07 09:38:44   By: Anonymous
               
              It's nearly impossible for 2 government agencies to work together, but you expect anyone to believe that all these agencies and entities were in cahoots, and were able to keep it all secret? You're crazy!

              Ever heard of Occam's Razor?

              Given a choice to believe that crazy conspiracy theory, or one that easily explains the events, I'm going to go for the logical one. Terrorists hijacked planes and flew them into their targets. Simple and concise.

              You people are really, truly CRAZY!


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                Re: Re:
                Posted on: 2005-02-07 22:32:18   By: Anonymous
                 
                Agreed ^

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                Re: Re:
                Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:17:37   By: kaha
                 
                "Given a choice to believe that crazy conspiracy theory, or one that easily explains the events, I'm going to go for the logical one. Terrorists hijacked planes and flew them into their targets. Simple and concise."

                Simple and concise and absolutely unsupported by the facts.

                Good, believable primetime tv fodder for those who don't examine the facts.
                Why do you think Bush refused to testify to the 911 Omission under oath, and why do you suppose that he refused to testify without Dick Cheney at his side?


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                Re: Re:
                Posted on: 2005-02-08 19:28:37   By: Anonymous
                 
                Simple, concise and conforting to your peace of mind.
                Only it doesn't explain anything.

                If you are new to this please try to check these few simple facts:

                Normal mandatory standard FAA procedure expressly states that as soon any civilian aircraft deviates from its assigned flight path AND/OR there is loss of communication with it, the FAA controllers in charge should notice NORAD which itself should dispatch intercept fighter jets. This is done routinely in a matter of minutes. Check the official website: www.faa.gov it is all there.

                How then could FOUR airliners fly around for almost TWO HOURS in the most secure airspace of the planet (including the most secure of the most secure: the Pentagon) -even after the first tower was hit and other hijackings were known to be in progress- without any fighter showing up until after everything was over?

                If this were mere incompetence a lots of heads should have rolled, instead most of those in charge that day have been promoted. Plus: such a level of incompetence for all these highly trained people is simply not believable.

                After you have checked all this we shall talk about the videos showing these huge buildings WTC1, 2 (AND SEVEN which wasn’t hit by any plane) collapsing in a perfectly vertical / symmetrical manner from top to bottom entirely and within only a few seconds.

                Then we may discuss the pentagon pictures clearly showing that should it have been possible for a notoriously lousy flight student to execute such an acrobatic figure at high speed and hit his target with pin-point accuracy, no airliner could have possibly caused the damage seen.

                And these are only some of the major anomalies.



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                  Re: Re:
                  Posted on: 2005-02-08 20:39:41   By: Anonymous
                   
                  Lol dumbass! They didnt apply the fighter interception policy until AFTER this occurred, this being the reason. Also even if they were to intercept the airliners, they have to get an official order from a highly ranked gov official to engage, and there is no way to know that terrorists had hijacked the planes.

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                    Re: Re:
                    Posted on: 2005-02-09 09:50:50   By: Anonymous
                     
                    "They didnt apply the fighter interception policy until AFTER this occurred, this being the reason. "

                    Precisely. Why then was the fighter interception policy suspended that day and only that day?

                    I can't blame you for feeling scared.

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911
Posted on: 2005-02-05 22:25:08   By: Anonymous
 
If you are going to put crap like this on the internet at least learn to spell the peoples name right.

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9-11 Tyranny ( New World Order Conspiracy ? )
Posted on: 2005-02-06 06:26:52   By: Anonymous
 
It's obvious that the attack on the Pentagon was premeditated, & a hoax. No body's, & evidence + proof of bombs inside the building. & a missle was fired from an american jet fighter too. so to our friends, that are sceptic? You need to get a clue. The truth is " anti-american & unpatriotic ". When you get arrested, & find yourself knowhere with nothing, in a DC controlled area outside the U.S. ? Maybe then you'll get it.

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BUT WHAT CAN WE DO ?
Posted on: 2005-02-06 21:47:00   By: Anonymous
  Edited By: Phil_Jayhan
On: 2005-02-08 08:05:05
I MEAN ITS NOT LIKE WE CAN DO ANYTHING ITS ALREADY HAPPENED AND MORE THAN LIKELY MORE WILL BE DONE IN THE FUTURE IF WE MAKE IT MUCH FURTHER .I RESPAONDED TO 911 I KNOW WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD ISNT EXACTLY TRUE IVE SEEN IT I HEARD IT IM THE ONE SUFFERING FROM WHATEVER ENTERED MY BODY FROM BREATHING IT IN OR BEING AROUND IT . WHAT ABOUT THESE FEMA CONCENTRATION TYPE CAMPS WITH HIGH FENCES AND BUILDING WITH CHAINS IN THE FLOOR ? IS THIS YET TO COME ? IS THIS FOR ALL PEOPLE WHO OWN GUNS ?

ADDITION . THE ONLY THING IM WONDERING IS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ACTUAL FLIGHTS IF IT WAS A TANKER ? U CANT TELL ME 3 PLANE LOADS OF PEOPLE ARE BEING HELD BY OUR GOVT SOMEWHERE . I KNEW 3 PEOPLE ON ONE OF THE SUPPOSED FLIGHTS. I HAVE YET TO HEAR FROM THEM IN ALL THIS TIME. WHERE ARE THEY ? DID OUR GOVT SHOOT THEM DOWN AND COVERING THAT UP .HEY DONT GET ME WRONG IM BELIEVEING A GAVT COVERUP 100% JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE 3 FAMILY MEMBERS OF MINE ARE THAT WERE ON THE PLANE



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    Re: BUT WHAT CAN WE DO ?
    Posted on: 2005-02-08 19:36:21   By: Anonymous
     
    Please turn off your cap lock!!!

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    Re: BUT WHAT CAN WE DO ?
    Posted on: 2005-02-15 23:28:32   By: petteroes
     
    caps lock on only make me jump to the next post. If you got something to say, talk. screaming is boring. And harder to read. Try it one time..


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How do you live with yourselves?
Posted on: 2005-02-06 22:33:54   By: Anonymous
 
This comment will not be followed up by me, but it only took me a couple seconds to see that this site spreads disinformation and panic.

Some here only see what they want to see rather than taking the facts and basing a opinion on that. You tout your fears of being controlled by the government, yet you fail to see the control this website has on you.

Your life is such a waste. Mark Brlej

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    Re: How do you live with yourselves?
    Posted on: 2005-02-06 23:04:24   By: Anonymous
     
    Who the F*ck is that F*g ^

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      Re: How do you live with yourselves?
      Posted on: 2005-02-07 11:52:34   By: Anonymous
       
      Hey Kaka, does that post constitute an "abusive troll from a moron"? Or are we being selective in how we enforce our double-standards when it comes to censorship?


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        Re: How do you live with yourselves?
        Posted on: 2005-02-07 18:15:20   By: kaha
         
        Yeah, I believe it does. If I moderated this board I'd axe it.
        Feel better?


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    Re: How do you live with yourselves?
    Posted on: 2005-02-07 17:59:06   By: Anonymous
     
    " ..it only took me a couple seconds to see that this site spreads disinformation and panic. ...] Some here only see what they want to see rather than taking the facts and basing a opinion on that... "

    So it took you only a couple of seconds to take all the facts, check them and base your opnion on that. Right?

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too many questions
Posted on: 2005-02-07 12:05:55   By: Anonymous
 
One only has to look at the attitude of the current administration and see for themselves the corruption spewing from the wound of Americas 8 year problem. After Pearl harbor, a commission was initiated two days later. Two days! Of course, any public or private investigation into 3,000 American deaths was promptly halted or fought by Bush and Cheney. People, this is all one big scam and it's time to see we're being branded, being readied for the slaughter. Don't you think it a little strange that the Bush administration would bully congress into passing the USA PATRIOT act a whole year before any investigation could single out Americas weaknesses? We've been lie to about WMD's and most americans just go along with a story that keeps changing. WAKE UP!!

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land of the free & home of the brave
Posted on: 2005-02-08 00:02:57   By: Anonymous
 
But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great- Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World.


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    Re: land of the free & home of the brave
    Posted on: 2005-02-08 00:53:26   By: BIL
     
    I agree with the above statement one hundred percent. Like most Americans, I have actually never read the Declaration of Independence: until today. Upon reading the above statement, I have found this to be absolutely true, and I have found the previous statement in the Declaration also describes these same actions to be taken by American citizens.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

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    Why don't you people...
    Posted on: 2005-02-08 01:12:21   By: Anonymous
     
    Why don't you people update your sources? Popular Mechanics did a marvelous job of debunking these conspiracies. Try to use credible sources for once, like people who actually know what they are talking about. I suggest you read the 2005 March Issue of PM for some hard facts. I think I'd prefer to listen to the tangible logic of expert witnesses than the twisted opinion of misinformed citizens.

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How long until word gets out big time?
Posted on: 2005-02-08 01:26:39   By: Anonymous
 
I definitely believe Bush and the whole administration did it. That Bonesman must be brought to justice. Capital punishment for the whole administarion is necessary to rid America of this evil. I know that word is getting out thanks to this site and quite a few others...I'm really glad to hear it. I made a link to this site to a forum that I'm on (100 people saw it...just trying to do my part)
Americans, Canadians and all freedom loving people must get angry and come together when such attrocities occur. If we don't do it I fear this is our last chance.

How long do you think it will take until word gets out big time?

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    This site
    Posted on: 2005-02-08 01:40:23   By: Anonymous
     
    This site is a doing exactly what it preaches against. Misinforming citizens with one-sided opinions that are based on sketchy suppositions. The poll alone demonstrates what this site is doing! 4 out of 5 choices include the US being either guilty or blame-worthy with. The option of US not being guilty chooses to use loaded words and skeptism. You people are just looking for something to liven up your corpulent lives.

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      Re: how long
      Posted on: 2005-02-08 01:47:44   By: Anonymous
       
      how long will it take for this site to lose all of its remaining traces of credibility? not long i would say.

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You little Pansies, a sequel to You %%&# Retards
Posted on: 2005-02-08 02:52:00   By: Anonymous
 
Sometimes I question why its the American citizen themselves who bashed and belittle our government. I question what type of person can pull make believed lies out of his anus to make something so perfect look so sinister. Then, i found my answer: 40 year old Virgin computer nerds who prolly dont even know the names of all the States our glorious nation encompasses. I'm willing to bet $500 that none of you ever served in the military before, and have no idea how a real nation at war runs. I also noticed that your site is from the Appalachian State University, which then made perfect sense: You guy's are nothing more than rambling neanderthal hicks who shoot squirrels in your spare time while dreaming of your cousins. Prolly never even seen a picture of a true American Hero, and i bet you listen to Green Day just for their American Idiot ballard. You my ignorant countrymen, are the cause of fear and America's low image in the eyes of its allies. You instill lies and fear among the ignorant masses, and yet you bs your way through everything. Maybe you weren't hugged as a child, maybe you never saw the pride and proud soldiers of this great country, or perhaps you can't even recall what war we won in the 1939-1945. Either way, go learn something relevant, go read some American History, go say the Pledge of Allegiance, go sign up for some service, do something to realize the real power and righteousness of the United States of America. Damn treasoners

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    Re: You little Pansies, a sequel to You %%&# Retards
    Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:41:52   By: kaha
      Edited By: kaha
    On: 2005-02-09 01:53:08
    You'd be entirely wrong.
    Several of us are veterans of the US military, myself included (US Army, 2nd ID in Korea, and 1st AD in Ansbach, Germany through the 80's). But go ahead and set up your little strawmen and knock them down; it's actually somewhat amusing.
    Like watching a two year old throw a tantrum.
    Go ahead and stick another flag on your rig while sticking your heads deeper into the sand, you "Real Patriots".

    But answer my questions above.
    Why did WTC7 collapse that afternoon?
    We all saw it on network tv, but considering how most of you Real Patriots(TM) seem to have the attention span of gerbils, you probably forgot it. Allow me to refresh your memory.
    WTC7 (the Solomon Building) was a 47 story, steel frame highrise. It was not hit by a plane, not damaged by falling debris from the towers, and only had small fires burning on a couple of upper floors. But at about 17:20, it collapsed neatly into it's own footprint.
    Why? Was it just tired of life?

    BTW, I got a major chuckle over how you deduced that we must be backwater hicks, and then ended your infantile rant by calling us "treasoners".

    Treasoners?

    President Bush, is that you on the line?



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      Spend $3.50
      Posted on: 2005-02-08 04:02:18   By: Anonymous
       
      a LATER report by NIST researchers supports the hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. "about 1/3 of the face to center and to the bottom-appro 10 stories- about 25% of the building" was damaged. There was also newly discovered undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and southwest corner. Couldit possibly be that intense flames and structural damage may have contributed to the collapse? Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks in the buildings facade just before the top two penthouses collapsed. Also due to the buildings unusual design, the columns near the visible cracks were carrying exceptionally large loads..."if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors..its could cause the collapse so that the entire section comes down."
      brought to you by
      *the Texan* a believer in tangible logic (and PM)

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        Re: Spend $3.50
        Posted on: 2005-02-08 04:30:13   By: kaha
         
        "Later", as in: after the evidence had been spirited off overseas, right? Without analysis.
        I'd say you got screwed for $3.50.

        Failure caused by what intense heat? Don't believe me when I say that there were only small fires burning on a couple floors. Office fires, not a steel-smelting inferno. Look at the photos on FEMA's own website.
        "Cracking fascade"? Gimme a break.
        To produce a collapse such as the one witnessed, the supporting steel structure would have had to have been totally compromised. And you are not only telling me that this was through office fires, but also that you paid $3.50 to be able to tell me this.
        Who's sounding silly now?
        WTC7 was not damaged structurally by the collapsing Trade Center towers; it was two blocks away.
        WTC6 was majorly damaged, and photos of it show a veritable inferno. Yet, it did not collapse. It was leveled in the following weeks by demolition crews.

        You claim to apreciate solid facts; this we share, Texan.
        I've been examining these facts for over two years, and the "official version" of 9/11 doesn't add up. The case of WTC7 is just one of many things that just don't add up.
        Look into it.

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          Melting metal
          Posted on: 2005-02-08 23:01:46   By: Anonymous
           
          I hope you realize Sr. Kaha, after 2 years of research, that steel does not have to melt for its integrity to be sacrificed. A continuous fire fueled by not only by building material but also the diesel lines in the building has the capacity to weaken steel.

          BUT I'm sure you already knew that.

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            Re: Melting metal
            Posted on: 2005-02-09 02:10:34   By: kaha
             
            In fact, I did know that steel doesn't have to melt in order to weaken. But that weakening point is not reached through office fires; steel dissipates heat. When you heat a spot on a steel rail with a torch, does the whole rail get hot? No.

            Never in history has a steel-framed structure collapsed through fire. Until September the 11th.

            And yet, there was molten steel found in the basements of WTC1, 2, and 7. What melted it?
            Jet fuel can't. Burning furniture can't.
            Cutting charges can. Thermite can.

            Your vaunted PM article completely failed to mention that the WTC leaseholder, Larry Silverstein, said in a PBS interview that he'd given the order to "pull" the building (WTC7). This is a term used in controlled demolition.
            Just do a google search for "larry silverstein pull it".

            Did you know that he'd tripled his insurance coverage on the buildings just two months before the attack?

            I'm done with this thread. Any further discussion is on the letsroll911 forums. See ya there. :)





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        Re: Spend $3.50
        Posted on: 2005-02-10 04:46:35   By: Anonymous
         
        There's just a few problems with FEMA's reports, but not surprising.

        First of all I find it hard to believe anything FEMA says, for instance,
        they claimed it was the diesel fuel tank that exploded, for no reason
        of course, that caused the building to come down.

        They really should have watched the PBS documentary "America Rebuilds", that aired in Sept 2002. In the documentary
        Larry Silverstein, the controller of the WTC Complex is
        heard saying, "I remember getting a call from the fire
        department commander, telling me that they were not sure
        they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said,
        'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest
        thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull
        and we watched WTC 7 building collapse.

        And it's amazing how the debris finished falling by 10:30 am,
        yet building 7 didn't catch fire until 4 hours later. And amazing
        how the debris didn't cause building 6 to collapse, just jumped
        over to building 7.

        Now the firemen who reached the floor of impact of the first
        tower hit was less than ten minutes with their station across
        the street. They reported there were only two small fires burning.
        So if the fire's were the cause of the major fireproofed steel columns,
        located between slabs of concrete to soften, from heat less than 10 minutes, then one has to wonder why it took the two towers nearly an hour later to collapse. And why the second tower collapsed first, when 80% of the jet fuel ended up outside of the building, but blamed as the
        main source of heat to soften the steel ?

        On Nov. 21, 1980 after an explosion in the basement area of the MGM Grand Hotel, causing structual damage, and sent a fireball up through the ventilation ducts, causing numerous floors to burn throughout the hotel for over 6 hours, yet it never collapsed, much less imploded perfectly. Yet 10 minutes of burning causes two towers to implode perfectly nearly an hour later. Wouldn't the steel have become hardened again without the intense heat for nearly 50 minutes ?

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          Re: Spend $3.50
          Posted on: 2005-02-15 23:41:57   By: petteroes
           
          Aliens made the towers fall. Weve all seen em, standing in the holes where the planes smashed in. A heat that can cause damage to steel, will burn people to dust, so those creatures must have been aliens. Lets bomb Jupiter, or something. Yiii haaa.

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      Remember
      Posted on: 2005-02-08 04:08:56   By: Anonymous
       
      remember: Al Gore created the internet. nice hyperbole Mr. Gore.

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    Re: You little Pansies, a sequel to You %%&# Retards
    Posted on: 2005-02-17 06:16:54   By: Anonymous
     
    Hey moron, learn your American history a-hole. We were in the war 1941-1945. The rest of the world was in the war from 1939-1945.

    Your credibility just sank as low as Chimps!!!

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Great Leader Bush?
Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:59:41   By: Anonymous
 
Fact:

Arbusto Energy

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Arbusto Energy (Arbusto Oil) was a petroleum and energy corporation formed in Midland, Texas, in 1977, by George W. Bush.

The name Arbusto is Spanish for "shrub", a synonym for "bush".

Investors in the company included Dorothy Bush, Lewis Lehrman, William Henry Draper III and James R. Bath. At the time that Bath made an investment of $50,000 he was representing SALEM BIN LADEN's interests in Texas. When SALEM BIN LADEN died in 1988, his interest in Arbusto (along with other bin Laden Group assets) passed to KHALID BIN MAHFOUZ.

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    Re: Great Leader Bush?
    Posted on: 2005-02-08 04:05:35   By: Anonymous
     
    bin laden means "son of laden"...bin Johnson...bin Robertson...point?

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    Great Leader Bush?
    Posted on: 2005-02-08 04:27:08   By: Anonymous
     
    Point:

    Salem bin Laden

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

    Salem bin Laden (1946-May 29, 1988) was a Saudi Arabian investor.

    The eldest of the bin Laden brothers (a half-brother of OSAMA BIN LADEN), he acted as the patriarch of the bin Laden family after the death of his father Mohammed bin Laden. Salem managed the family's extensive investment portfolio (thought to be valued at around $16 billion).

    Salem bin Laden was, through his American representative James R. Bath, an investor in Arbusto Energy, a small oil company run by George W. Bush.

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      Re: Great Leader Bush?
      Posted on: 2005-02-08 04:32:13   By: kaha
       
      Wasn't he the "excellent pilot", who hooked a left into some power lines?


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        Re: Great Leader Bush?
        Posted on: 2005-02-08 14:11:09   By: Anonymous
         
        Yes, he was apparently an "excellent pilot": despite, the 1988 circumstances surrounding his "unusual death in a ultralight aircraft accident outside San Antonio, Texas".

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No Subject
Posted on: 2005-02-08 16:54:26   By: Anonymous
 
pre 911 the "u.s." spelled it this way...USAma bin laden
9-11-01 -osama bin laden
1)audio of ff's in towers show no sign of "danger" trained pros say nothing about melting steel.ff's where on the 79 floor.
2) audio of atta in plan cab or cockpit talking to victims on the plane....not a arab voice (mossad agents on the planes 1 women & one man) "atta" trained in pensacola florida
3) anthrax attacks remember them ???? gov. spores from N.C.
or VA.
4)mossad/arabs agents filming the towers being hit on 911...u have the internet u can find this one easy
5)mike bellone & nicholas DeMasi found 3 black boxes i guess there lieing also
6)the *F*L*A*S*H* before the 1st plane hit is HUGE not to mention the seond flash from second hit
7) pentagon "story" is funny the PENTALAWN says it all...& the small pieces of plane are laughable..
8)wtc archives of construction in progress is a good measuring stick to how strong this buildings where.
9)9-11-91 BUSH SR.said there will be a NEW WORLD ORDER, THE CFR HAND GESTER ON THERE NATIONAL SEAL,FOX NEWS SPINNING PYRMIDS, CBS EYEBALL,AREAL VIEWS OF D.C.,IF U NOTICE PYRMIDS
ARE ON ALOT OF THINGS INLOVING BIG BUSINESS.
10)THIS IS A EXAMPLE OF LESS THEN HALF A PRECENT OF EVEIDENCE THAT IS THERE WHY DO U STAND BEHIND THESE PEOPLE WHEN THEY DO NOTHING FOR U & TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR PATRIOTISM



P.S. i was in COMPLETE support of the war on terror & killing binladen & his people i put my flag out before the second plane even hit the wtc tower that's how pissed i was but but but i just happened to stubble blindly onto this hole anti government/ gov watchdogg/ crazy theory websites thing & these people have extremely valid points that get overlooked ..ignoredby the mainstream media. P.S.S.I WIPE MY ASS WITH A TEXAS STATE FLAG .....THE TEXEN

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    "Red Pillers"
    Posted on: 2005-02-08 22:54:44   By: Anonymous
     
    I would hate to upset all the work you "red pillers" have done studying the system, contacting the families of the planes that according to you didn't go down, explaining to little Johnny why his daddy isn't coming home from the United Airline Flights because the government is hiding him and the rest of them somewhere. Wouldn't it be nice if you "red pillers" could convince the rest of us Americans that our government was out to get us? But hey, if your sending in these messsages from an American army base in another country, kudos to you. I hold you soldiers in the utmost regard for not just protecting the US's soverntity as a whole, but my family's lives as well. For you "red pillers" who would prefer to direct your time convincing themselves and other like minded citizens of the United States of America that what happened on 9/11 was a creation of the MATRIX, just make sure you explain to Johnny why his father or mother or brother or sister is six feet under...start calling.

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      Re: "Red Pillers"
      Posted on: 2005-02-10 00:01:29   By: Anonymous
       
      HEY TEXEN REDPILLER & ALL THE REST TELL ME THAT THE ANTHGRAX SPORES DIDN'T COME FROM VA OR N.C. TELL ME PLEASE SHIW YOURSELF 4 WHAT U ARE .......*S*P*O*O*K*S*........

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      Re: "Red Pillers"
      Posted on: 2005-02-13 17:45:02   By: zorglub
       
      We are not denying 3000 innocents were murdered that day, if it is what you are implying.

      But I agree: Johnny does deserve a proper explaination. Not a Hollywood story: "19 rag heads lousy small plane student on a mision from God and UBL managed to go trough airport security with box cutters, overpower highly trained airplane crews in 4 instances, then fly these sophisticated airliner for about 2 hours in the most secure air space in the world without any reaction from the multi-million dollar air defence system."

      Cheap sentimentality won't help.

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      Re: "Red Pillers"
      Posted on: 2005-02-13 18:29:43   By: Anonymous
       
      HELLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ANTHRAX!!!!!!
      *********A*N*T*H*R*A*X****A*T*T*A*C*K************* remeber them???????? HEY SPOOKSSSSSSS LIE TO THESE PEOPLE PLEASE..SY SOMETHING ABOUT THE ANTHRAX ATTACK THAT THE TILIBAN DID HHHHAAAAAAA HHHHHHAA HAAAAA ANTHRAX FROM N.C. YEAAAA TILIBAN FIGUREPRINTS ALL ON IT...AL CIAquida DID IT ....

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    Ever heard of a Dictionary?
    Posted on: 2005-02-08 23:08:47   By: Anonymous
     
    I just wondering why a visitor to this site would take the time to read your list of "proofs" if you did not even take the time to spell your complaints right.

    "PS" I suggest you try wiping your arse with a dictionary as that seems to be the only you will learn anything. look up PRATE while you are at ;)
    brought to you by
    *the Texan*

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      Re: Ever heard of a Dictionary?
      Posted on: 2005-02-09 23:50:56   By: Anonymous
       
      I'M NOT HERE TO WIN A SPELLING BEE I'M HERE TO TYPE AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBILE IN THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME PROOFREADING IS 4 PUNKS LIKE U TEXEN

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Don't Waste Time With The Blue-Pillers
Posted on: 2005-02-08 20:04:57   By: Anonymous
 
First two words out of my mouth after hearing (on radio) that the second tower had "collapsed" was "inside job". Didn't go down too well with my work collegues of course who were busy being brainwashed by the unfolding "official" story.

But, like Morphius says to Neo; "You have to understand most of these people are not ready to be unplugged."

So it's really a waste of energy locking horns with them. Most of them are so deep in denial and "so hopelessly dependant on the system that they will fight to protect it".

They are not a bit interested in questioning their government's explanations and motives, or the dumbed-down snake poison the puppet, corporate media sprays in their faces 24/7 and passes off as factual analysis. Too scary for their tiny, closed, pathetic little minds to ask questions. They WANT to believe officialdom. They are the "Blue-Pillers" to the end. But oh, how critical and energised they suddenly become when you contradict their comfortable world view. They will demand PROOF that 911 was an inside job. But will not make the same demands of the government's account of events. Even though there is no evidence, no hard facts, no PROOF to support it! Only huge and numerous anomolies.

The rest are spooks sent to forums to disrupt and corrupt.

Better to ignore them all. Better to debate only with those with an open mind. With those who are prepared to at least LOOK at what is presented here and elsewhere and not just launch into a mindless tantrum.

Wallace.




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    Re: Don't Waste Time With The Blue-Pillers
    Posted on: 2005-02-08 20:42:14   By: Anonymous
     
    I WIN! HAHAHAH. I made a confirmed post PROVING it was terrorists and the DAM* SITE DELETED IT! YOU LOSE! I will post it again bu they will probably delete it.

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      Re: Don't Waste Time With The Blue-Pillers
      Posted on: 2005-02-08 23:19:34   By: Anonymous
       
      Agreed^ look who is censuring now...

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    Re: Don't Waste Time With The Blue-Pillers
    Posted on: 2005-02-08 23:23:21   By: Anonymous
     
    Oh I looked, I laughed, and I commented. en una boca cerrada no entra moscas. Neo, my prodigal son, Trinity mentions you should have accepted the blue pill.
    brought to you by
    *the Texan*

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    Re: Don't Waste Time With The Blue-Pillers
    Posted on: 2005-02-09 11:15:02   By: Anonymous
     
    Very well said!

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    Re: Don't Waste Time With The Blue-Pillers
    Posted on: 2005-02-13 18:03:06   By: zorglub
     
    Hi Wallace,

    Sure, they are much too scared and self-righteous to question their governement. But it is sometimes worth to counter their (so-called) arguments for the undecided visitors of this thread.

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Ok, seriously, You people really are Retards
Posted on: 2005-02-09 01:43:44   By: Anonymous
 
This is my third posting on your so called "site of truth", and I really do not understand your views and deep beliefs that America is hoaxing the whole 9/11 attacks, and that we ourselves are to blame. Can you really believe that the trust of millions into the media and sources of RELIABLE INFORMATION. What makes you ranting idiots believe you have the "newest facts"? There are only a few of you, but tens if not hundreds of millions of people who are competent enough to understand that "hey, we know what we're doing, why would we attack our own nation?" Your outnumbered, and out gunned when it comes to logic, I'd recommend that you nicely unplug your computers and join the real world...you know...the one outside your computer room, where real people live and thrive in our excellence. For all I know you so called "Truth Seekers" could be terrorists trying to implant the seeds of fear and doubt into our society. Perhaps you feel it is needed for you to rant and rave about your "theories", for you have no other justifications for your low, pathetic and demeaning life. Get out some more my ignorant Americans, it will do you a lot of good. Hey, for all you know JFK could have died in the 60's, or do you want to argue that? Your lucky no one goes and shoves a combat boot so far up your anus that your colon bleeds red, white and blue. I hope you get torpedoed some how by one of those "evil government Stealth Ships" you folks fear that are supposedly running around the Great Lakes, or get chased by those CIA Black helicopters.

From yours Truelly, The American Patriot.

Oh and by the way, dont delete my posts. Take it like a man and listen to reason once in a while.

Oh yeah and while you're smoking your hippy hemp, try not to pass out in your vomit...it be a shame if you folks were'nt in the picture.

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    Re: Ok, seriously, You people really are Retards
    Posted on: 2005-02-09 02:52:58   By: Anonymous
     
    Clearly you have not taken the time to research these issues, but rather instead you choose to paint everyone here as "childish conspiracy theorists". Dude you have not a clue and clearly have not done your homework as many of the true patriot researchers here, who have spent the last several years of their lives trying to get to the bottom of this nonsensical crap that the US government has been regurgitating to the public for the last three years. DO YOUR HOMEWORK! If after a through objective analysis of the evidence and absolute proof of government complicity presented here at this site you still choose to believe the official fairy tale, than so be it. Just don’t come crying to us when the next staged attack occurs and martial law is instituted and they start rounding up “dissidents” who refuse to disarm. Wake up man, democracy is dead and has been for quite sometime in time in the US. 99.9% of those in the government have been bought and paid for, and the American people been sold out in the process. I suspect that you are the type of person that still believes in the tooth fairy given the weak logic that you have presented here. Facts and self-evident truths is what this site is about, and if corroborating evidence of a missile and a bomb and a missile pod captured on 5 separate networks is not clear enough for you, than quite frankly you are in denial and will never “get it”. You deserve the fate that you get, just like the rest of the sheeple who choose apathy over action. Move along, Mr.sheeple citizen, nothing to see here, move along…

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*sighs* surrounded by idiots
Posted on: 2005-02-09 02:21:39   By: Anonymous
 
why should i waste my breath of sweet American freedom to argue with morons such as your self? Accept the facts man, you guys are childish conspirators, no better than Brutus or Cassius, and sooner or later a Marc Antony or Octavius Caesar is gonna bitch slap you

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    Re: *sighs* surrounded by idiots
    Posted on: 2005-02-09 03:09:42   By: kaha
     
    The feelings are mutual. Neither you, nor your friends above have presented any evidence to show that 9/11 was not an inside job, The evidence that it was an inside job is overwhelming. But you blindfold yourself with the flag, and whisper sweet nothings like "sweet American Freedom", even while said freedom is being dismantled in Washington.
    And you call yourselves "patriots".

    As I said above, see ya in the forums.


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    Re: *sighs* surrounded by idiots
    Posted on: 2005-02-09 04:49:03   By: kaha
     
    "you guys are childish conspirators, no better than Brutus or Cassius, and sooner or later a Marc Antony or Octavius Caesar is gonna bitch slap you"

    So... do you like licking the boots of the powerful, or do you suppose yourself to be the powerful?
    I prefer Spartacus as a role model, myself.


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      Re: *sighs* surrounded by idiots
      Posted on: 2005-02-11 12:46:52   By: Anonymous
       
      Spartacus was a notorious homosexual.

      Not that there's anything wrong with that! ;)


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    Re: *sighs* surrounded by idiots
    Posted on: 2005-02-09 19:01:32   By: Anonymous
     
    Which Illuminati are you?

    http://quizilla.com/users/Becket/quizzes/Which%20Illuminati%20are%20you%3F/

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    Re: *sighs* surrounded by idiots
    Posted on: 2005-02-10 00:09:31   By: Anonymous
     
    ANYONE WANT STICK A BOOT UP MY ASS.........OR BITCH SLAP ME ......OR WANNA TAKE ME SOMEWHERE AGAINST MY WILL PLEASE OOOOO PLEASE HOLLA @ ME YALL SPOOKS KNOW WHERE I'M @ LEAVE THE GUNS & KNIVES IN THE CAR & COME TAKE THIS ASSWIPPIN ALABAMA STYLE....P.S. U "TROOPS" THAT WEAR THAT BACKWARDS AMERICAN FLAG COME AROUND ME WITH THAT BULL*bleep* ON & SEE WHAT HAPPENS
    YES THAT RIGHT THE TROOPS IN IRAQ & ALL OVER EVEN STATE SECURITY GUARDS WEAR BACKWARDS AMERICAN FLAGS ON THERE ARMS UN*bleep*ING REAL!!!!!!!!!!!

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Bush knew it was going to happen?
Posted on: 2005-02-09 03:14:32   By: Anonymous
 
I just got out of a sociology class where we watched a video that had a recording of Bush stating that he saw the first plane hit the tower BEFORE he went into that FL school... I thought he learned of it when he was reading to the kids. What's up with that?! Did he know it was going to happen?????

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    Re: Bush knew it was going to happen?
    Posted on: 2005-02-09 11:28:22   By: Anonymous
     
    So true! This could have been a slip up... but then, when Rumsfeld was in Iraq (this past Christmas)talking to the U.S. soldiers he said that we were defending Amerika against the terrorist..." that shot down the flight over Pennsylvania".... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I thought box cutting terrorists did this? Bush and Rumsfeld both with acccidently saying the wrong info.??? It's so easy to tell the redneck idiots on any posting. They offer no evidence and they want to talk about how good Amerika is, then they say look at History books! What a Fuc*ing joke... idiots!! Lets ask our selves; Did Amerika not amass it's empire on the backs of slavery for 250 years? Did the "great" forefathers not commit genocide on over 20 million Indigenous people of this country? Has the government not sponsored overthrowing democratically elected officials in other countries.. only to install ruthless dictators who kill their own people just to get a piece of the money that U.S steals through their corporations! Come on you fuc*ked up people, Don't trust a History book written by the people who commited genocide and created a police state to get your information! Read ( The People's History of the United States) by Howard Zinn! As for all you ignorant or willing Amerikans who stand by the atrocities, for your fleeting materialistic goods, Amerikan Idol, and your 24 pack.... your time is coming. Karma works wonders!

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No Subject
Posted on: 2005-02-09 14:20:06   By: Anonymous
 
This site is ridiculous.
The photos don't show anything. There is nothing attached to the belly of the plane. The "flash" on the fuselage is just a reflection from the glass tower.

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    Re: "The Flash"
    Posted on: 2005-02-09 15:54:18   By: Anonymous
     
    Re; This site is ridiculous.
    The photos don't show anything. There is nothing attached to the belly of the plane. The "flash" on the fuselage is just a reflection from the glass tower.Italicized Text

    Now this is more like it. No tantrums. Ok, well taking that particular photo in isolation, it is difficult to be sure of anything. It could be a reflection as you say. There is also a flash further back too. It's when you piece it together with everything else that it makes you reconsider.

    Also, i'm sure if that same clip had been presented on FOX/CNN et al as evidence that the TERRORISTS somehow fired a missile from the side of the plane then all you sceptics would be agreeing with the conclusion. "WOW man, those evil-doers fitted the hijacked plane with a missile launcher in mid-air man, look there's the PROOF dude, it must be true cause CNN says so"

    The puppet media and government present us with ridiculous explanations all the time, but people like you never question them.

    Wallace.

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"Jet Fuel can't melt steel"
Posted on: 2005-02-09 22:08:58   By: Anonymous
 
Jet fuel burns at 800 to 1500F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

So I guess Bush found this writer and bribed him to write his book AND make these comments to Popular Mechanics...
has anybody ever heard of Occam's Razor?

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Grand Illusion
Posted on: 2005-02-09 22:45:55   By: Anonymous
 
This has been on the CIA's "events" plan for a long time. The timing was to "green light" the Corporation's perpetual war machine [Corporation called "United States"- see Act of 1871, Congressional Record, Chapter 62 & 63, that took over running, not only the District of Columbia, but the rest of the country, to administer the bankruptcy declared by Roosevelt in 1933.], forever endebting the American People financially and with the fear engendered need for cannon fodder (bodies) to give the appearance of sacrifice for the moral high-ground. With this in place they could continue their quest to control Middle East oil; ever increasing illegal arms sales [like the chemical and biological weapons they sold Saddam Hussein, after signing non-proliferation treaties]; illegal drug production [CIA's cash cow] as well as various minerals needed to produce more weapons and support systems. What most people don't know is that in accordance with Treasury Delegation Order #91, of 1950, when the IRS collects money, it goes directly to the Governor of the World Bank. Not one nickle of it EVER pays for taxpayer services,[see The Grace Commission Report]. Then when Papa Bush gives Saddam $10Billion in US credits, he walks into the World Bank and pulls out your tax dollars, and buys WMD's from Papa Bush with your tax dollars. How does that feel?
The timing was also an attempt to prove to the Saudis that their radicals are capable of doing crazy things, which they did in 2003. This gives Baby Bush clout over the Saudis and their oil production to thereby control our gas prices at the pump and control us.
The video in this website produces some question in my mind. How could these terrorists get the rocket pods and firing controls through security - as lacks as it was? How did they supposedly attach it to the underbelly of a Commercial Airliner without anybody noticing what was done? SINCE ALL OF THESE AIRLINERS ARE TRACKED, BY BOTH FAA AND NORAD, WHERE DID THEY SWITCH PLANES, AND, WHAT LEVEL OF AUTHORITY DOES IT TAKE TO GET BOTH FAA AND NORAD TO LIE FOR YOU?????
Where is the real airliner and all the people on it? Where is the airliner that DID NOT hit the Pentagon? At its fuel-run-out range in the Atlantic? Why did the plane that hit in Pennsylvania have a twelve chanel flight recorder [like they use on remote control drones] instead of a six chanel recorder? Who was remote controlling all of these planes?
We need the answers to a lot more questions, but the pattern is very clear. This seems to lead to the one man who has ultimate authority...

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Popular Mechanics
Posted on: 2005-02-10 01:10:48   By: Anonymous
 
You guys might wanna check out this month's issue of Popular Mechanics. There's an artical debunking most of ur work and saids that your nuts.

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    Re: Popular Mechanics
    Posted on: 2005-02-10 02:32:30   By: Anonymous
     
    People like you are so predictable. I bet you didn't even read all of the Popular mechanics article. You just read a few of the bold lines... suppossedly "debunking" the 9/11 conspiracy and then you want to post here saying your right. Screw you! If you would have RESEARCHED!!(not just reading a few lines) the thousands of websites that are intensely analytical of the 9/11 event... such as physics911.org, you would see that as Wallace (who has made some good posts)has said that you must look at the entire information which has been gathered very meticulously.Like any detective that is solving a mystery, we are analyzing all the information that the government has given us as well as what evidence we see.If something proves beyond a shadow of doubt true then this can be noted; just as equally if there is information that proves not to be true we can dismiss it. This is how a crime is solved. And if you sheepie people out there would open your brainwashed minds to the fact that maybe your precious government would lie to you for their own greedy motives then maybe we could start a true democratic society and make this world a little more peaceful!

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      Re: Popular Mechanics
      Posted on: 2005-02-10 04:19:31   By: Anonymous
       
      Don't be an ass, i read it twice, and the infromation is very sound and creditble. The evidance that is sighted on this site is circumstanal at the best. that "POD" is where the plane's landing gear is, the reason that the Pendtagon didn't take more damage is because that building is designe to survie a nuclear blast, the planes wings didn't have enought mass to punch through the newly installed renfoced walls that are built to take a mean beating, as for the wreckage, it was scattered all over the place, the plane dictergraded on impacted.

      Don't be blinded by your overwhelming hate for the goverment that alouds you to bad mouth it. I hate Bush as much as you do but that hate hasn't made me turn a deaf ear or a blind eye. Do you even read that artical?

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        Re: Popular Mechanics
        Posted on: 2005-02-12 02:51:10   By: Anonymous
         
        YOU GUYS ARE SLAYED!

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        Re: Popular Mechanics
        Posted on: 2005-02-12 15:16:46   By: Anonymous
         
        I work on and with Boeing 767s. The 'POD' on the lower right hand side of the "Hijacked Arab Terrorist" Boeing 767 extends over the 194LR lower fuselage panel as well as the right main landing gear door for a total lenght of approximately 30 feet or 10 YARDS!

        The bay enclosed by the 194LR panel is a 'quick release' panel with QUICK RELEASE levers. The 194LR panel is connected to the rest of the aicraft across its approx. 15 ft lenght by a 'piano hinge'. One "drops" the panel down by unlatching the QUICK RELEASE levers along the forward, aft and outboard perimeter of the 194LR panel and the panel then swings down to the ground vertically while suspended by the piano hinge.

        Within the aircraft by enclosed by the 194LR panel is the RIGHT Airconditioning Cooling Pack which is MOUNTED to the rest of the 767's fuselage by permanently afixed BRACKET MOUNTS. By removing the BOLTS which attach the RIGHT A/C PACK, one can entirely REMOVE the right a/c pack from the aircraft. This then leaves a HUGH SPACE within and right a/c pack bay.

        IN PLACE of this rather large REMOVED right a/c pack, one can then use the MOUNTS to installed and secure with BOLTS any old sort of thing you want to contain within this large aircraft bay - things like a MISSILE rack or any other sort of ORDINANCE one whats to enclose within the now vacant right a/c pack bay.

        It is 'No Big Deal' to remanufacture aircraft panels and doors so as to ensure that there is both enough clearance and aerodynamic properties around any sorts of odd-shaped mechanicisms or equipment that hangs out into the airstream. Why, it's absolutely NECESSARY to do so around such mechanisms/equipment so that aerodynamic drag is REDUCED on the entire aircraft as well as on the mechanisms and equipment as well.

        Such 'aerodynamic' PODS can be readily seen on ALL commerical jet aircraft. Just look at UNDER THEIR WINGS! There are 'PODS" (called 'Canoes' by a/c maintenance mechanics) which encapsulate the worn-gear driven FLAP ACTUATORS on EACH & EVERY LAST COMMERICAL AIRLNER EQUIPMENT TYPE all currently operating all across this world of ours!

        Give me a fabrication mold of any type or shape. Give me copious amounts of honeycomb material sheets. Give me copious amounts of epoxy. Give me copious amounts of paint, fastners and whatnot, and I'll personally BUILD you a 'Pod' that replace 194LR panels on Boeing 767's! Might not be as 'perfect' and 'pretty' as a Boeing factory turned out type, but it WILL be good enough to put onto a Boeing 767.

        Each commerical airliner has a CODING RECEPTACLE which gives an individual 'address', an individual 'phone number', for eadh and every last modern commerical airliner.
        Such CODING RECEPTACLES can be found in their SATCOM and SELCAL systems. It's like giving everybody a CELL PHONE with his/her own private telephone numbers.

        By knowing the CODE of a particular aircraft (such organizations such as the FAA and their attending AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL organizations have them all 'on record')
        one can again access to and 'take over' the control of those aircraft equipped with SATCOM by 'calling' that particular aircraft's SATCOM 'Telephone Number'. The SATCOM SDU discretely replies/answers its Satellite calling entity (such as the FAA or DOD). With the proper 'Computer Password' transmitted to the SATCOM equipped aircraft in question, the SDU sends a discrete/ditigal signal up to the front of the aircraft - it's cockpit - to the pilot and co-pilot's CONTROL DISPLAY UNIT called a 'CDU'.

        With another discrete/digital signal forwarded to the AUTOPILOT DISENGAGE logic gates, one PREVENT/PROHIBITS the Autopilot from being disengaged by either the pilot, co-pilot....OR....any 'Arab Terrorist Hijackers' who are repeatedly reputed in the brainwashing/lying US mass media outlets to have 'HIJACKED' the Boeing 767s and Boeing 757s used TO STAGE the 9-11 'Arab' Terrorist attacks.

        The SDU now uses the 'back door connection' it has on the cockpit CDUs to load all sorts of new DATA into the various Boeing 767/757 computer systems which INCLUDE its Flight Management Computers, Flight Control Computers and whatnot.
        This has the discrete/digital effect of turning your Satcom Controlled Boeing 757/767 into nothing but a radio controlled and GPS guided/aimed CRUISE MISSILE!

        The editor and the entire staff on POPULAR MECHANICS are all BULL*bleep*TING ALL OF YOU STRAIGHT TO YOUR FACES!

        Now then, you call can be SAPS, DUPES, STOOGES, MORONS, ZOMBIES and continue to believe all the CRAP your bogus, illegitimate and evil-minded US Federal Government officials and their CIA/DOD robot-drones - or you can finally begin to WAKE UP to the fact that these Federal officials are marshalling all of you off towards World War III.

        Now make up your minds as to WHAT you all intend to personally and collectively do about that!

        - tocarm


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          Re: Popular Mechanics
          Posted on: 2005-02-13 02:09:41   By: kaha
           
          Word, tocarm.

          Great post.


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    Re: Popular Mechanics
    Posted on: 2005-02-10 02:45:15   By: Anonymous
     
    Simple,

    Why was so much money spend on Clinton's scandel and not on 911?

    Why is it that American people can not handle watching the WTC attack on televison?

    Why is the media so bias?

    Do you know all the phone call in America gets recorded, even the white house?

    Did you know Larry Silverstein made close to 7.5 billion dollars due to the WTC attack?

    Did you know Larry Silverstein got the lease just 6 months before the WTC?

    Have you done the first site in google search that shows up if you search "Larry Silverstein"?

    Did you know how much our American money gets wasted on Israel?

    Here check this out http://www.rense.com/Datapages/Israeldata.html href="http://www.web_address.here">Click Text Here

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Whadda Think?
Posted on: 2005-02-10 04:22:00   By: Anonymous
 
What do you guys think about that PM artical, those of you who sat down and read it.

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    Re: Whadda Think?
    Posted on: 2005-02-11 12:46:53   By: zorglub
      Edited By: zorglub
    On: 2005-02-11 15:32:23
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=1&c=y

    DEBUNKING THE DEBUNKING

    The pod:

    [“PM sent a digital scan of the original photo to Ronald Greeley, director of the Space Photography Laboratory at Arizona State University. After studying the high-resolution image and comparing it to photos of a Boeing 767-200ER's undercarriage, Greeley dismissed the notion that the Howard photo reveals a "pod." In fact, the photo reveals only the Boeing's right fairing, a pronounced bulge that contains the landing gear. He concludes that sunlight glinting off the fairing gave it an exaggerated look. "Such a glint causes a blossoming (enlargement) on film," he writes in an e-mail to PM, "which tends to be amplified in digital versions of images--the pixels are saturated and tend to 'spill over' to adjacent pixels." ]

    The pod can still be seen on PM’s own image. Have you ever seen a landing gear that long? Have you ever heard of certain pixels “spilling over” to adjacent pixels while the other pixels of the same picture keep quiet?
    BTW: why did PM send A DIGITAl SCAN of the orignal Photo?
    Note that PM does not question the authenticity of the picture.

    ["When asked about pods attached to civilian aircraft, Fred E. Culick, professor of aeronautics at the California Institute of Technology, gave a blunter response:
    "That's bull. They're really stretching“"]

    WOW! That’s a sound scientific argument!!


    No Windows :

    ["Flight 175's Windows
    CLAIM: On Sept. 11, FOX News broadcast a live phone interview with FOX employee Marc Birnbach. 911inplanesite.com states that "Bernback" saw the plane "crash into the South Tower." "It definitely did not look like a commercial plane," Birnbach said on air. "I didn't see any windows on the sides."
    Birnbach, tells PM that he was more than 2 miles southeast of the WTC, in Brooklyn, when he briefly saw a plane fly over. He says that, in fact, he did not see the plane strike the South Tower; he says he only heard the explosion."]

    PM fails to mention that Birmbach maintains his claim while implying that he must have seen ANOTHER plane.

    No Intercepts

    ["CLAIM: "It has been standard operating procedures for decades to immediately intercept off-course planes that do not respond to communications from air traffic controllers," says the Web site oilempire.us. "When the Air Force 'scrambles' a fighter plane to intercept, they usually reach the plane in question in minutes."
    FACT: In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999. With passengers and crew unconscious from cabin decompression, the plane lost radio contact but remained in transponder contact until it crashed. Even so, it took an F-16 1 hour and 22 minutes to reach the stricken jet. Rules in effect back then, and on 9/11, prohibited supersonic flight on intercepts. Prior to 9/11, all other NORAD interceptions were limited to offshore Air Defense Identification Zones (ADIZ). "Until 9/11 there was no domestic ADIZ," FAA spokesman Bill Schumann tells PM. After 9/11, NORAD and the FAA increased cooperation, setting up hotlines between ATCs and NORAD command centers, according to officials from both agencies. NORAD has also increased its fighter coverage and has installed radar to monitor airspace over the continent."]

    Intercepted only one aircraft in a decade? Is this believable?
    It is clever to ask FAA and NORAD officials to defend FAA and NORAD who so utterly failed on that day.
    FAA spokesman tries to confuse the issue by talking about “ADIZ” the absence of which wouldn't have prevented an intercept in any way since FAA regulations in place on 9/11 clearly required scrambling fighter escort in the event of a hijacked plane. Fact remains too that both the air force and FAA monitor the air space in real time 24/7.
    Or do you really believe there was no such basic security system in place in the US?


    Controlled demolition:

    ["FACT:Jet fuel burns at 800 to 1500F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
    "Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800 it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.
    But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832F.
    "The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down.""]

    The official story keeps changing according to the gradual wider acceptance of some indisputable physical facts and gets more and more absurd in the process.

    They can’t claim anymore that jet fuel fire was hot enough to MELT steel; they now say it only had to soften and / or swollen in order “loose its integrity”. (the only thing loosing it’s integrity here is the official story)

    Even if rugs, curtains, furniture and paper could burn hot and long enough so as to "soften" construction steel that does not account for the sudden, symmetrical, rapid and thorough collapse of the towers.

    WTC 7

    ["FACT: Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA's preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. "The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7," NIST's Sunder tells PM. "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom--approximately 10 stories--about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.
    NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse," a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down. Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or "kinks," in the building's facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.
    According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."
    There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building's other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.
    Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. "There was no firefighting in WTC 7," Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: "Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time."
    WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors--along with the building's unusual construction--were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse."]

    Here they are obviously struggling. They themselves don't seem to know what to blame exactly.
    Anyway we can cut the pseudo-technical debate short because Larry Silverstein -the WTC owner– himself admitted on national TV that WTC7 was deliberately demolished. “We took the decision to pull it” See video on this website.

    Pentagon

    Now a good laugh:

    ["“The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide--not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage”]

    Just look at he pictures. Tidy indeed. That must be the magic landing gear!

    And then, this other gem:

    ["Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?""]

    Okay. Just show us the photos then.





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      Phase Change in Metal Alloys
      Posted on: 2005-02-12 19:41:50   By: Anonymous
       
      Dear Zorglub:

      Additional reference information for you (and others)to use in refuting those who insist that structural alloy steel can be 'weakened' BELOW it's crystalline "phase change" temperature, you can find the precise temperatures of WHEN a certain steel alloy undergoes it's "phase change" at which point its tensile strenght/load bearing capacities are seriously undermined/jeopardized in such industry reference books such as "The Metallurgist's Handbook".

      For those who don't understand that they are being BAMBOOZLED to the extent they are via the corrupt/criminal officials within/throughout our US Federal Government and its manifold interlaced agencies, departments, etc., they can begin their own education of such things as "phase change diagrams" and whatnot which relate to this LIE that certain structural alloy steels can be turned into 'Play Doh' as this, that or whatever other fire 'temparture(s)', here are but some webpages which will help those curious and concerned enough individuals in doing their own research:

      First, familiarize yourself with such metallurgical terminologies such as "Phase Diagrams" and "Critical Point" within these pages:
      http://www.arvintd.com/td_glossary_terms6.asp#p
      http://www.arvintd.com/td_glossary_terms2.asp#c

      Become aquainted with "Phase Diagrams" and what they look like. For example:
      http://www.sv.vt.edu/classes/MSE2094_NoteBook/96ClassProj/examples/kimcom.html
      and some of the Metallurgical science's terminologies:
      http://www.virginia.edu/bohr/mse209/chapter9.htm

      Get yourself(ves) some good reference books on metallurgy and the physical properties of metals, such as:
      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0070579865
      http://shopping.msn.com/search/detail.aspx?pcId=15226&prodId=769281

      Such information will assist one and all to identify who is ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING in 1)"Obstruction of Justice", 2) "Criminal Conspiracy" and 3) "Accomplices to Murder"

      - tocarm


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        Re: Phase Change in Metal Alloys
        Posted on: 2005-02-13 10:36:06   By: zorglub
         
        Hi Torcam,

        Thanks for the links. I'm personnally interested in this, but as u can see from some posts here, precise scientific facts are unlikely to have any effect on lazy brain-washed people who love very simple and confortable logic.
        If u have knowledge in metalurgy; what do u think of that -very simple- argument:
        If jet fuel could melt/soften steel, no jet engine (made of steel) could fonction . It would soon melt/loose its integrity. As we know that never happens.

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          Dear Zorglub
          Posted on: 2005-02-14 20:49:24   By: Anonymous
           
          Yep, you are correct. The vast majority of Americans are "Brain Dead". Factual and intellectual pursuits are NOT an American 'forte'. The mentality of the vast majority of US citizens is more or less concerned with their personal "rice bowls", how much "rice" they have in their "rice bowls" and too busy in figuring out ways to keep their "rice bowls" perpetually filled without doing any work at all!

          If they are not obsessed with their "rice bowls", then they are obsessed with their sexual organs and how to get their sexual organs stimulated so as to achieve the "success" of their own subjective orgasm.

          And if they are not concerned with the status of their "rice bowls" and if they are not obsessed with their sexual organs, then they are consumed with investing their times in all sorts and manners of personal diversions, amusements and entertainments.

          THEN, these individuals have the unmitigated gaul to come onto a serious, honorable and respectable site like LetsRoll911.org in order TO SPEW all sorts of garbage out from their illiterate, ignorant and self-obsessed minds either in an effort to "leave their mark" for the whole world to see (much like a bunch of hooligans spray painting GRAFFITI all over the place) - OR - to have a "little fun" is causing as much difficulty for and obstalces to those of us individuals who are trying our darn best to be CITIZENS of this nation and to FULFILL THE RESPONSIBILITIES that come along with Citizenship.

          But alas, truth to tell, WE DON'T HAVE A 'COUNTRY' nor do we live in political precincts with CITIZENS. Oh, to be sure, we have lots and lots of SQUATTERS claiming all sorts of "rights as" US Citizens - we have lots and lots of PARASITES who only exist in this nation of ours in order TO SUCK THE LIFE out of others.

          So without a LEGITIMATE Government and without RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS - all that we can do in seeking JUSTICE against those CRIMINAL MASS MURDERS who conspired to pull off this bogus/fake/staged 9-11 "Arab" terrorist attack is to do those things which are the HALLMARKS of being a HUMAN BEING.

          - tocarm


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        Re: Phase Change in Metal Alloys
        Posted on: 2005-02-15 07:16:35   By: Anonymous
         
        I work at a metal fabrication and machine shop. We have a good size anealing oven aproxiately 8x20x6 ft.high. To give you some idea how long it takes to get steel hot enough to deform I will tell you. Welded parts and castings are put in the oven and then heated by about ten big natuatal gas torches that are built into the sides of the oven. It is expressley built for the purpose of heating up steal. The oven itself has walls about a foot thick of firebrick to contain the heat.In order for natual gas to get hot enough compressed air is mixed and injected under pressure and ignited by what looks like big spark plugs. The sound this thing makes is a deafening roaring sound. After about two hours the heat gets up to about 1400 degree F. I'm trying to give people some idea of what it takes to get steel up to a temperature where it will deform. It's a lot more than one might think.
        The idea that those wimpy fires at the WTC would have melted or deformed steel is a joke. They were'nt even getting any air,hence the black smoke. The flames you do see are at the places where it was getting air. But certainly not air under pressure wich it would have needed to get anywhere near it's maximum burning temperature.

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          Re: Phase Change in Metal Alloys
          Posted on: 2005-02-15 19:48:11   By: Anonymous
           
          Take that same metal that is in an annealing oven "not hot enough to melt" and subject it to pressure (such as the wieght of holding up several stories of a building): what do you think would happen?

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            Re: Phase Change in Metal Alloys
            Posted on: 2005-02-15 20:38:27   By: Anonymous
             
            Anomynous:

            Have you ever been to or witness what types of efforts and forces are required TO FORGE ingots of steel into other forms and shapes?

            - tocarm


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          Re: Phase Change in Metal Alloys
          Posted on: 2005-02-15 20:36:42   By: Anonymous
           
          May God bless you 'Anonymous' for sharing with one and all your experience with metal/steel parts & ingots in a GAS FIRED heating furnance.

          Perhaps you might enlighten all our LetsRoll911 readers here as to what TEMPERATURE one must get the flame of a CUTTING TORCH to burn/oxidize through a 1/2 section of carbon steel.

          - tocarm


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Bush is a Pawn
Posted on: 2005-02-11 14:10:30   By: Anonymous
 
With an iq of 91 and his daddy an iq of 92, how could it be otherwise. Everything they are they owe to the Rockefella's! The Damn Mamzer jewish yids!

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Bush is a Pawn
Posted on: 2005-02-11 14:14:55   By: Anonymous
 
I apologize for my last post, if it was a little barbaric. Bush is a pawn though. I don't want to be banned. How do I join?

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    Re: JOIN and unveil the truth!!
    Posted on: 2005-02-12 02:54:40   By: Anonymous
     
    You people who believe the US is responsible are all dumb F*CKS! You won't last a second... GO TO HELL Im done with this BULL*bleep*

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      Re: JOIN and unveil the truth!!
      Posted on: 2005-02-12 03:50:14   By: Anonymous
       
      I'm certain that you had an intelligent response ready, complete with logical explanations for all the anomalies of that day, but then a NASCAR race came on tv.
      Can't miss Dale Jr.!


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        Re: JOIN and unveil the truth!!
        Posted on: 2005-02-12 21:45:34   By: Anonymous
         
        Maybe if u asked the creators of this site then u can see all my points they deleted. NASCAR IS NOT A GADAM* SPORT ANYONE CAN DRIVE A CAR!

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          Re: JOIN and unveil the truth!!
          Posted on: 2005-02-12 22:29:23   By: Anonymous
           
          Word

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Pentagon attack
Posted on: 2005-02-12 23:47:01   By: Anonymous
 
You would think that somewhere there were video cameras scanning the grounds of the Pentagon prior to the attack that would have picked up something and recorded whatever hit the building. I worked there for four years from 1962 to 1966 and security was tight then. I cannot imagine that there are not any images to study from cameras now.

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    Re: Pentagon attack
    Posted on: 2005-02-17 04:07:00   By: Anonymous
     
    What you do see at the Pentagon is people tampering with a crime scene. Wich is in itself a crime. You see lines of people picking up debris others scampering around picking stuff up. In effect destroying evidence. We have photos of these people, have they been charged with crime scene tampering? Under whose orders were they working?
    How come those planes wern't reassembled like they have done with many other plane crashes. I have seen planes recontructed from pieces retrieved from the bottom of the sea. Why not the 911 planes? Where is the FAA report?
    The Pentagon has dozens of security cameras, If they show a 757 hitting the building why don't they release them?


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No Subject
Posted on: 2005-02-13 00:30:14   By: Anonymous
 
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that factions of the U.S. government and the cabal driving this government not only facilitated the events of 9-11, but have engaged in a massive (not to mention sloppy) cover-up campaign in collusion with the mainstream media to hide their crimes and deceive the public. These are the true "terrorists", the real "evildoers".
They will not get away with this mass murder.
We will not stop until TRUTH prevails.


Lisa Guliani
WING TV
http://www.wingtv.net


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poor question
Posted on: 2005-02-13 02:24:15   By: Anonymous
 
......usama bin laden and his cave dwelling templates is the only response i'm permitted if i don't believe 911 was a conspiracy?

you will never convince me by offering such a disengenuous question.

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    Re: poor question
    Posted on: 2005-02-13 03:00:52   By: Anonymous
     
    Nobody has to "convince you". You have a brain. do the homework. Check ALL the information out for yourself.

    Lisa Guliani



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    Re: poor question
    Posted on: 2005-02-13 04:20:44   By: kaha
      Edited By: kaha
    On: 2005-02-13 04:29:19
    "......usama bin laden and his cave dwelling templates is the only response i'm permitted if i don't believe 911 was a conspiracy?"

    Did you mean, if you believe the official conspiracy theory about "UBL and the 19 hijackers", as opposed to ones based on factual evidence?
    It's all conspiracy. But the FBI doesn't seem to believe the official one either, since they haven't even charged him with the crime.


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Nerds
Posted on: 2005-02-13 06:52:29   By: Anonymous
 
You guys are still virgins aren't you, what a bunch of nerds ranting and raving about conspiricies. Go out to a brothel find your balls and pull your heads out of your asses. Join the Marine Corp.

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    Re: Nerds
    Posted on: 2005-02-13 18:20:48   By: Anonymous
     
    I WIPE MY ASS WITH A UNION MARINE FLAG ....A NOTE TO ALL SOUTHERN MALES.....18- 40........DONOT JOIN THE UNION ARMY
    YOUR BLOODLINES ARE ROLLING OVER IN THERE GRAVES

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      Re: Nerds
      Posted on: 2005-02-14 02:20:05   By: Anonymous
       
      The union armie? WTF are u babblin about.

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      Re: Nerds
      Posted on: 2005-02-14 03:48:31   By: Anonymous
       
      wtf are you talking about you confederate bit*h. I'm sure a lot of African Americans would follow your ideas. Were the 600,000 dead not enough in the Civil War. I mean come on how is it the union army when im sure thousands of southerners are in the army. I dont see any "union" people going down south and bitchin at them why do it here. Please tell me how the marines are part the union when they're comprised of some of the best people in the country. And seroiusly how the f*ck do confederates and northerners deal with 911.

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        Re: Nerds
        Posted on: 2005-02-17 01:08:21   By: Anonymous
         
        NOBODU SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE CIVIL WAR *bleep*BOY.I DONOT SUPPORT THE CONFEDERATES EITHER PUSSY SO SHUT DA *bleep* UP

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You People Slay Me
Posted on: 2005-02-13 07:02:43   By: Anonymous
 
Bold Text Why would the government want to blow up our own people. The idea is really stupid and you people are equally. It's like Tony Blair saying lets blow up Big Ben and blame it on the terrorists in Ireland so we have an excuse to invade them. F*cking stupid. you nerds should get out of your mother's basement once and a while, get some sun, get a job, and you'll realize too that WOW! These conspiracy people are idiots.

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    Re: You People Slay Me
    Posted on: 2005-02-17 04:29:28   By: Anonymous
     
    Relax dude, violent rejection of the truth is the first part of acceptence. The fact that you are at this sight means your journey for the truth has begun. Nobody wants to believe our own goverment did all these awful things. We didn't arrive at our conclusions of what happened 911/2001 without looking at the evidence. Many of us have spent hundreds of hour researching the events of that day.
    I'm telling you the harder you look the worse it gets. You will never have need of any fiction novels again. No fiction novel can compete with the convoluted reality of what transpired. The outrageousnous of the whole thing I think is part of the plan. The bigger the lie the harder it is to believe. This event has opened my eyes to the way our goverment has been operating over a long period of time. This event is just the latest chapter.


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Roll it our your ASS
Posted on: 2005-02-13 07:10:13   By: Anonymous
 
I've read through your biast piece of crap website, maybe you and michael moore would like to have a kid together, but i don't if either of you two have a workin pair of balls, 911 wasn't an inside job,it wasn't a bomb planted in the buildings, it was some *bleep*ed up people and some *bleep*ed up point of view on some religion who carried out the attacks. To think that America would kill thousands of it's own people just to invade some *bleep* hole country only to lose thousands of more people is just *bleep*in retarded, and if you retards ever wake up and stop spouting conspiricy theories, move out of your mom's basement, maybe see the sun for the first time since 2001 and move off of american soil, if you don't trust your government, because people abviously think your wrong or they would have voted President Bush out of office. So roll it out your ass, hippies. And for god's sake do yourself a favor and get laid. SEMPER FI

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My Long Ass Rant
Posted on: 2005-02-13 07:22:06   By: Anonymous
 
I'm not big on this whole conspiricy crap, but lest we forget the almost 2000 young men and woman who have worn the uniform and have paid the ultimate price. Even if all of this was one big conspiracy, the government would not put the lives of their men and woman of the armed forces in danger just for *bleep*s and giggles, we had a good reason to go into afganistan, i'm not so sure about iraq though but what the hell there in that part of the country so we might as well invade them to. In a few years we'll probably be headin into North Korea because our country has to wipe every other sorry ass nation thats not strong enough to help themselves, from the little piss ant nations who think that they can strong arm us by flashing a weak threat, but what the hell we might as well just say go to hell to all of the other nations and build a huge ass wall around the United States, and tell everyone to go *bleep* themselves and solve their own *bleep*.

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Move to Canada
Posted on: 2005-02-13 07:27:08   By: Anonymous
 
IF u dont like the way this country is run move out of this country and starve. People in Iraq and Afganistan are sacrificing their lives for freedom across the globe, giving people the right which you have now, Free Speech. Any other country over there would have you tortured and killed by now. The EPA says cars pollute. I think you do. Polluting peoples minds with these garbage ideas and false information. You also say your movement is growing. I havent seen evidence of that, just like the evidence your giving me, havent seen that. Do us all a favor and move to Canada. Pollute their minds. Real Americans are obviously smart enough not to listen to you.
P.S.~To those people who oppose the war in Iraq,
If we didn't remove Saddam Hussein your saying that its okay to leave an evil dictator who killed and tortured thousands unpunished okay. Im sure any Kurd in Northern Iraq is now glad not to have the fear of being nerve gased because of not being Sunni or what Saddam's reason was for killing them.

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    Re: Move to Canada
    Posted on: 2005-02-13 07:44:55   By: kaha
     
    Five rapid-fire posts from the same single-wide, this dude sounds troubled.
    Tell us, Marine. How is it that the anthrax that scared Tom Daschle and others into signing off the "Patriot Act" came from our own labs?
    How is it that the autopsy reports for American Airlines flight 77 showed no Arabs on board?

    I don't want to move to Canada. I want America to pull it's head out of it's butt. Starting with all of you self-proclaimed "patriots". The Fathers of our country are rolling in their graves over sentiments such as yours.


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      Re: Move to Canada
      Posted on: 2005-02-13 08:33:59   By: Anonymous
       
      Dear Kaha:
      This Marine is not troubled sir. The only thing that troubles me is how stupid this web site is. 9/11 conspiracy my ass. Us soldiers were not mislead into battle, nor tricked. I know what my mission is and i know what i'm fighting for, My children, both 2 and 4, and my country. And by God im not going to watch someone like you misinterpret freedom of speech and use it like this. And if i were to die fighting in Baghdad my children would know that their daddy was fighting for little children like them in iraq. I guess its too bad you will never have the feeling of raising a child, or if you do you will never fully grasp it. I almost feel bad for you. You have no core values, no true happiness, maybe you should join the service. It's the best thing i've ever done.

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        Re: Move to Canada
        Posted on: 2005-02-13 17:51:28   By: kaha
         
        Dear Marine:

        You've answered none of my questions, and choose instead to go on about how asking these questions is a misuse of the First Amendment. This is not the thinking of a US military member or an American, this is the thinking of a blind follower.

        As far as joining the military being "the best thing I ever did", I have to agree with you. I served in the US Army through much of the 80's. 2nd Infantry Division in Korea, and 1st Armored Division in Germany (they are now in Iraq).


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        Re: Move to Canada
        Posted on: 2005-02-13 18:06:24   By: Anonymous
         
        DEAR MMARINE U ARE WEARING A BACKWARDS!!!!!!!!! AMERICAN FLAG....MR. PATRIOT U ARE WEAR A ***B*A*C*KW*A*R*D*S****AMERICAN FLAG.....ONE MORE TIME BECASUE U STILL WEAR IT....DEAR SIR...U HAVE A BACKWARDS AMERICAN FLAG ON YOUR UNIFORM!!!!!!...EVERY TROOP IN IRAQ I HAVE SEEN ON T.V. LETS GO FURTHER BACK.........4 THE ALST 10 YEARS I'VE SEEN AMERICAN TROOPS IN IRAQ & AFGRAN. WEARING BACKWARDS AMERICAN FLAGS.......NOW CITY SECUIRTY GUARDS IN MY HOMETOWN HAVE BACKWARDS AMERICAN FLAGS......MR MARINE U ARE NOT WEARING A AMERICAN FLAG & BEING A PATRIOT U ARE WEARING A NEW WORLD ORDER FLAG ......IN 10 MORE YEARS EVEN NFL OFFICALS WILL BE WEARING BACKWARDS AMERICAN FLAGS THERY WILL BE EVERYWHERE .WAKE UP MARINE...THE TROOPS WHO STORMED THE BEACHES IN WW2 HAD REBold TextREAL AMERCIAN FLAGS ON PAY ATTENTION AMERICA !!!!!!!PUT THE BEER DOWN MARINE ....STOP WORRING ABOUT A PIECE OF ASS 4 2 SECSONDS....THE DEVIL DISTRACTS US ALL .KIDS , BILLS, JOBS, RELATIONSHIPS. EXT....JUST PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR SURROUNDINGS BOY!!!!!! TAKE THAT *bleep*ING BACKWARDS AMERICAN FLAG OFF & SHOVE IT DOWN BUSHS' THROAT & GET A REGULAR AMERICAN FLAG PUT IT ON YOUR LITTLE SHOLDER & BE A TRUTH SOLIDER A REAL AMERICAN PATROIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MARINE

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          Re: Move to Canada
          Posted on: 2005-02-13 19:48:58   By: kaha
            Edited By: kaha
          On: 2005-02-13 19:50:26
          The man is serving in our armed forces, and is just stating the opinion to which he is entitled, so I'd ask you to show some respect.
          And quit typing in all caps, it's farkin annoying. >;(


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            Re: Move to Canada
            Posted on: 2005-02-14 04:06:24   By: Anonymous
             
            Dear Kaha:
            I'm sorry for the way I came across. You are also entitled to your opinion as am i. I came across very bluntly and a Marine should of acted more honorably. I get very agitated when i read a few of the forums and saw that many people were not backing our troops in iraq and afganistan. I just got back and im under a little stress, dealing with the change of pace in civian life. Semper Fi!

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              Re: Move to Canada
              Posted on: 2005-02-16 06:30:57   By: Anonymous
               
              Just because I do not believe the 911 lie, does not mean I do not support our troops. My brother is a grunt in the USMC and he would be the first to tell everyone that most of the boys in the Marines are brainwashed into believing we are fighting a battle of good and evil. He would also tell you to quit running your filthy suck about your Iraq experience, due to the ignorant nature of your beliefs. If you as a Marine, have not figured out that war is about money and power by now.....damn

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          Re: Move to Canada
          Posted on: 2005-02-14 02:26:27   By: Anonymous
           
          The flag is backwards on the left sleeve so when your walkin the flag is always flappin the right way, kinda like if u wrote i'm a *bleep*in idiot on your head backwards, u could read it on your forhead if u looked in a mirror.
          and stop writin in all capitols.

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            Re: Move to Canada
            Posted on: 2005-02-17 01:20:02   By: Anonymous
             
            NO DONOT BELIEVE THE HYPE DUDE!!!!!!! YOU MOVE TO CANADA YOUR *bleep*ING NAZI....IF U ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THAT U ARE A WALKING TALKING BREATHING MORON WAKR UP...."THEY" ARE FAZEING THSI BACKWARDS FLAG IN *E*V*E*R*Y*W*H*E*R*E* . PLEASE SIR PLEASE WAKE UP I BEG U

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    Re: Move to Canada
    Posted on: 2005-02-13 11:26:27   By: Anonymous
     
    Actually you sorry piece of Sh*t, I belive this country belonged to the Native Amerikans before your sorry AS* genocidal relatives wiped out over 20 million of them. It's funny how most military people have to get a leg or arm blown off before they realize they are just a pawn in the global elites game. Do you think Rich powerful people like Bush and his PNAC buddies give a Fu*k about any Amerikan( that could be an immigrant) from any country, that might have died in the government's 9/11 plan... or would you say that their top priority is money??? It's not hard to think about this one, since this is an imperialist country. Do you realize that the U.S. government has dropped over 420 tons of depleted uranium (the second most toxic substance to humans.. behind mercury)in Iraq and Afghanistan?? On their own Amerikan soldiers. This *bleep* causes cancer, birth defects, has a half-life of 4 1/2 billion years and blows in the wind to travel anywhere. Over 70% of U.S. soldiers returning from the gulf war have had "Gulf war syndrom" which the U.S. denied for many years. Do you really think they care about you or your family? Another question for you Bushy sheeps... How do you think Amerika became the military superpower of the world. By playing nice and spreading democracy. No you DumbFu*k. By building up a 13,000 nuclear warhead arsenal,invading countries around the globe (which Amerika has over military bases in over 135 countries), monopolizing the media industry to brainwash sheep like you into believing their "democracy" story, and layering the politicians pockets for the highest bidder. Talking with people like you is a waste of time. If you want to follow Bush to the grave, caring about only your materialistic greed and carry around your God Bless Amerika sign be my guest. I'll just sit back and laugh... at how Stu*id you are. Let me ask you one last question oh holy protector of freedom... Who would Jesus bomb!

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To All You Conspiricy Hippies
Posted on: 2005-02-13 07:32:58   By: Anonymous
 
I just want to get one thing off my chest before i tell you how stupid i think all you guys are. I voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and again in 2004 so all you Bush haters out there can blow me. Onto the WTC, are you guys *bleep*in retarded, how and why would you want to fake something like that. All of you must think your so cool for trying to put a conspiricy behind somethin like this, please for everyones elses sake stop touching you and your little brother or sister in inappropriate places. you michael jackson wannabe, because even Dungeons and Dragons nerds have standards. Find your balls and join the military.

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    Re: To All You Conspiricy Hippies
    Posted on: 2005-02-13 16:07:53   By: Anonymous
     
    I'm not a hippie, I'm an ultra-conservative but I'm through defending the military. Look morons, this is how it works: U.S. Military = Oil Company Mercenaries.
    Why can't you f'ing see that?! Isn't that obvious by now?
    George W. Bush: oil man.
    George Bush Sr.: oil AND WEAPONS man.
    Dick Cheney: oil man
    Cheney's wife: formerly with LOCKHEED MARTIN, world's biggest weapons maker.
    Condaleeza Rice: Former Chevron oil employee. (tanker named after her)
    9/11 Commission members: connected to big oil, weapons and big-business, hand-picked for the cover-up.
    How obvious is it that the Bush admin. was planned to be big-business venture from the start? The last four years have been an orgy of $ for the oil and weapons industries.
    Haven't you dummies ever heard of the "military industrial complex? They're your bosses, not Bush and definitely not the American people. This government is owned and controlled by big businesss and has been for the last 170 years. When the foreigners don't play ball and give up their resources for free, they send in you dumb f**ks to steal oil fields and clear the way for pipelines and then tell you that you're defending the country from evil. How dumb can you f'ing get?!
    The U.S. government put the Taliban in power, but the Taliban betrayed them and wouldn't let U.S. oil interests put a pipeline through Afghanistan. The U.S. government put Saddam in power, then sent you in when Saddam started manipulating the oil markets and selling oil in Euros. That's why the govt. pulled off 9/11 and that's why bin Laden hasn't been captured and that's why THERE WERE NO WMD'S!!!
    The U.S. govt is responsible for the current regime in Iran, yet you idiots can't wait to get the orders to go in there and get killed because of this corrupt government.
    Members of the military, you are brave guys for the most part, but you're ignorant as hell. Stop risking your lives for the f'ing criminals in D.C. and research 9/11 and how this country REALLY operates. These gangsters are only empowered by YOU following their orders. Do your duty to God and country and stop doing the bidding of these monsters. They murdered 3,000 of your fellow countrymen and YOU ARE SWORN to defend this nation from ALL ENEMIES, foreign AND DOMESTIC. God bless you guys.

    9/11: THE GOVERNMENT DID IT!!!

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      Re: To All You Conspiricy Hippies
      Posted on: 2005-02-13 16:34:02   By: Anonymous
       
      People need to understand that you don't get to be President by being patriotic. You get that job by being a ruthless businessman that's willing to kill people, even Americans if that's what your masters want done to make more money, and the 7+ TRILLION to be made in oil alone, not to mention all the weapons being used is quite an incentive to pull off 9/11. What's 3,000 people? There's 300 million more Americans so it's no big loss right? That's how the rulers of this country think. So just keep on going with the flow and let them get away with 9/11. No skin off your back, until you or your family just happen to be in a building they need to blow up to start another war. ALL WARS ARE FOUGHT FOR PROFIT AND POWER. Always have, always will be. They only tell you it's "good against evil" to get the people and the soldiers behind it. It's time we quit falling for the same scheme over and over again before these psychopaths kill all of us.

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        Re: To All You Conspiricy Hippies
        Posted on: 2005-02-13 16:48:34   By: Anonymous
          Edited By: Zerohour
        On: 2005-02-13 18:41:23
        Shortened link

        All you skeptics need to start by going to these links and trying to disprove their information. You will find that the more you try to prove it wrong, the more obvious it becomes that it WAS AN INSIDE JOB.

        http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html

        http://www.infowars.com/resources.html

        And if you're one of those that says: "There was a 9/11 Commission. If the government was involved, they would have found out and exposed it." BWAHAHAHA!!! So naive...
        Get this book and wake up to the truth:

        http://tinyurl.com/6o4du


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        Re: To All You Conspiricy Hippies
        Posted on: 2005-02-15 06:07:02   By: Anonymous
         
        BRILLIANT

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    Re: To All You Conspiricy Hippies
    Posted on: 2005-02-13 22:43:04   By: Anonymous
     
    a good page to learn from if you can read
    http://www.brianwillson.com/
    stop and awaken from your sleep
    only the amarican people can save the world
    becaues they are the only ones in a position to
    peace be with you and all who inhabit the earth

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please prepare
Posted on: 2005-02-13 16:46:59   By: Anonymous
 
So, how do we organize? Until then, prepare YOUR response. PREPARE to take action... remember, the MACHINE needs electricity to communicate.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2005-02-13 17:34:46   By: Anonymous
 
HEY PM MAG. READERS.........THAT MAG. WAS FOUNDED BY HEARST ....A SSKULL & BONE MEMBER. YALE UNIVERSITY SKULL & BONE MEMBER......BUSH IS SKULL & BONES ALSO. LOOK IT UP

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No Subject
Posted on: 2005-02-13 17:40:33   By: Anonymous
 
THE REASON SOME CIRCLES CALL BIN LADEN USAama & OTHERS CALL HIM OSAMA IS BECASUE HE IS A C.I.A. NEW WORLD ORDER SPOOK....12 PEOPLE IN THE CIA WAS SET UP TO WATCH THE TILABAN/AL-CIAQUA...THEY WHERE REFERRED TO HAS THE MANISONS(INSIDE JOKE SICK BASTARDS) MORE PROOF THAT THIS IS A INSIDE OP

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Pentagon Attack
Posted on: 2005-02-13 22:25:40   By: Anonymous
 
We've all seen the horific videos of planes hitting the WTC towers thousands of times. NOW, let's see the videos of what hit the Pentagon, just once during prime time TV!

Of the 5-photos released by the military March 7, 2002, they clearly show a rocket smooke trail and it is more than just painfully obvious that they deliberatly withheld the one photo showing a clear unobstructed view of the rocket that hit the Pentagon, yet the media has said absolutely nothing.

These same photos were reproduced in rapid sucession in the PBS special, "Rumsfeld's War", but what in the photos released Mar. 2002, was previously the smoke plume of a rocket seems to have somehow now "evolved" electronically air-brushed into what now appeas to be a "ghostly" image of a plane!

Why the changes and "IF" indeed the attacks were perpetrated by terrorists; why is the Bush administration conducting the cover-up?

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    Re: Pentagon Attack
    Posted on: 2005-02-13 22:28:28   By: Anonymous
     
    Let's see the videos!!!!

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9/11 and October Surprise scandal
Posted on: 2005-02-14 00:16:56   By: Anonymous
 
The FBI uses polygraphs to eliminate suspects ... Google and type in "Operation Ringwind"

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    Master Plan?
    Posted on: 2005-02-14 10:16:15   By: Anonymous
     
    Check out a very insightful/ opinionated ? article on rense.com This writing is about the Peak Oil Scam and how the global elites have a plan for world depopulation and authoritarian rule. At first it sounds hard to believe but you can see many examples of how this plan is carried out. The idea is to say that there is an impending oil shortage in the world which keeps these global elite invading countries around the world for their oil.... "to install democracy". Since the industrial revolution the world has become increasingly integrated with oil. From the cars, electricity and plastics,down to the very food we eat(ammonia fertilizers-byproduct of oil)...for every calorie of food we eat we are consuming 10 hydrocarbons of oil. Now that the world is completely reliant on oil, these elite turn on and off the oil market to induce... famine, disease, wars, and DEPOPULATION. I mean if these elite can have their own world, why would they want it so crowded?.. we are already headed towards 8 billion in the next 100 years. Then these global elites step in to restore order... with authoritarian rule...i.e PATRIOT ACT, POLICE STATE. This has already happened many times on smaller scales... look at the Enron scandal(turning off power stations to increase energy costs).Anyway, we can choose to have the world of happyland for a few elite and suffering for the masses or we can continue grassroots movement with people who want truth, equality and peace in this world. Revolution NOW... or 1984 later?

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Another day in the Matrix
Posted on: 2005-02-14 11:39:01   By: Anonymous
 
Ruby Ridge, Waco, OK City, 9/11; each event having a larger loss of life than the one before it. Anyone see a pattern? If you think these were bad (and they were), buckle up, 'cause the next one the cryptocracy has planned will make these pale by comparison.

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    Bill Hicks
    Posted on: 2005-02-14 22:21:49   By: Anonymous
     
    Come back Bill, we need you down here!

    You would have SO MUCH material.

    "Go back to bed America, your government is in control!"

    Wallace.

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Bunch of idiots
Posted on: 2005-02-14 14:13:59   By: Anonymous
 
All you people are a bunch of idiots if you believe that 911 was anything more than an attack carried out by evil people.

In my mind you all should get a life, become educated or go hide in a cave and let the rest of live a normal live.

Mark

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    Re: Bunch of idiots
    Posted on: 2005-02-14 16:06:13   By: Anonymous
     
    When confronted by truth
    evil shall then label you
    giving you a mark
    thus thay can identify you
    so they can weed you out
    grow up and stop name calling
    or are you also illuminati


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    Re: Bunch of idiots
    Posted on: 2005-02-15 00:47:31   By: Anonymous
     
    I agree with you completely! They probably believe that the U.S. is to blame for the Tsunami also!
    Steve

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Jesus H. Christ!
Posted on: 2005-02-14 17:27:50   By: Anonymous
 
I've stumbled across bits and pieces of conspiricy theories written by you nutjobs, but after visiting this site, I'm convinced that most of you should go ahead and check yourselves into institutions with doctors who study this kind of mental illness. I'd also like to carefully review the resumes of the creators of this site and the the other sites like it. I bet that would be very interesting.

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    Re: Jesus H. Christ!
    Posted on: 2005-02-14 20:01:24   By: Anonymous
     
    Dear thought police,

    If opinions such as yours prevail, this world is condemned. The only way to show people like you the truths of our modern times is for God himself to manifest in human form, and awaken all those that are blinded by the mass media. It appears that you will only believe lies that emanate from a Bush, or his corrupted mass media. All for the sake of your own personal self-comfort, and while every day innocent children are being murdered by all of the unrighteous followers much like yourself.
    I sure hope that none of you unrighteous hypocrites claim yourselves to be Christians, or to have accepted Jesus as your savoir. You are now at the mercy of the satanists, and their New World Order hell bent on World Domination!

    Sincerely,

    "We are the dead. YOU ARE THE DEAD."


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Oh well!
Posted on: 2005-02-14 19:47:32   By: Anonymous
 
Did my comments REALLY warrent banning? Unbelievable!

Hard to imagine, given the contributions, and the amount of energy and defensive maneuvering I put forth over the last year. There were only 3 areas of contention, which, for credibility purposes, I felt strongly needed to be corrected or adjusted.

Felt just like that AFW Forum banning. No different.

Regards,

Headhunter

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    Re: Oh well!
    Posted on: 2005-02-14 19:52:50   By: Anonymous
     
    I have to consider an ejection from the Truth Movement itself.

    Oh well - brought the Cargo Tanker 300 to the fore, and a whole host of things important to the movement as a movement of the truth, and of a more accurate historical record.

    Very unfair though phil, and petty.

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Is This our Future
Posted on: 2005-02-14 20:37:22   By: Anonymous
 
The Declaration of Surender of Human Civil Rights to Corporate Control of every Nation on Earth
WORLD CONGRESS, July 4, 2006
The unanimous Declaration of Submission of the Soverign World Nations.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for the Corporations to dissolve the political bands which have governed them with another, and to assume Control of all Soverign Nations of the World, the Military forces, the Illegitamate Rulers and the powers of the earth, the sole and only station to which the Laws of Illusion, Deception and of Satan's Nazi Illuminati elite entitle them, absolute respect to the opinions of the Illuminati, Corporate Persons, and their loyal subserviant followers requires that they should conceal the purposes and methods which permit them to succeed
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created as slave's for use, and or abuse by the World Government and Corporations, that they are endowed by the Corporations with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Death, Slavery and the pursuit of Obedience to the Corporations of Satan's Nazi Illuminati elite. --That to secure these rights, a World Government was instituted among Men, deriving its just powers from the consent of Satan's Nazi Illuminati elite, and the Corporate Persons, --That whenever any Form of mankind becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the Corporations to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new preemptive measures, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to increase their Profits and Control. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that the World Government established should not be changed forever; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to slavery, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But when a long Train of Truth and Righteouness, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce the World Government under absolute Despotism, it is its Right, it is its Duty, to throw off such Beliefs, and to provide new Guards for the future of the Worlds Homeland Security. Such has been the patient Efforts of Satan's Nazi Illuminati elite and their Corporate Persons; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Mind Controll. The History of the present Shall be rewritten as the Corporations deem nessecary to justify, falsify, and or cover-up the Corporations attrocities. Freedoms and Civil Liberties, all have a direct Objection to the Establishment of absolute Tyranny over these theWorld, and therefore will no way be tolerated. To prove this, let the True Facts be supressed and Destroyed for all time while humans walk on this Earth.

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No Subject
Posted on: 2005-02-14 23:28:37   By: Anonymous
 
Regardless of Bush's lack of intelect, he is the Commander and Chief and all blame is ultimately his.
Somebody had to order the F16's to stand down before 9-11 could happen !!

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9/11 lies?
Posted on: 2005-02-15 00:41:38   By: Anonymous
 
George, as well as everyone else in the U.S. was too complacent and never thought we could be attacked again like we were in WWII at Pearl Harbor. 9/11 just goes to show everyone that we may not be as powerful as we think we are, especially with home land security. Hopefully this was a wake-up call to everyone.

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    Re: 9/11 lies?
    Posted on: 2005-02-17 18:06:29   By: Anonymous
     
    You as well as many Americans are too complecent and would never think your own governement could do THAT to its own people. Hopefuly this will be a wake up call and people will start seeing through it with appropriate outrage instead of following and believing sheepishly whatever the Governement wants them to.



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No Subject
Posted on: 2005-02-15 05:55:32   By: Anonymous
 
IF THE SUBJECT WAS NOT 911....BUT INSTEAD A DIFFERENT CRIME WITH THE SAME NUMBER OF COINCIDENCES AND "MISSPEAK", ALONG WITH SUBSTANTIAL VIDEO/AUDIO EVIDENCE WHICH ALL POINTED AT THE "REAL" PERPATRATOR, IT WOULD BE A NO BRAINER FOR EVERYONE(ALA O.J.,). THE PROBLEM WITH GETTING THE TRUTH OUT IN THE MAINSTREAM IS MAINLY DUE TO AMERICA'S BLIND FAITH IN THE OFFICIAL STORY AND THE TRANCE-LIKE EFFECT PRESCRIPTION MEDS ARE HAVING ON PEOPLE'S COGNITIVE SKILLS.

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Will any human bieng make a stand for us?
Posted on: 2005-02-15 09:12:02   By: Anonymous
 
I hope I am still alive to see Him when he makes his return to save un. AMEN

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911
Posted on: 2005-02-15 18:40:42   By: Anonymous
 
PM has done it again. Voodoo science that tackles the easy questions and lets the difficult pass.

What a joke. You did the same with UFOs. That is why I know longer subscribe.

JC
Brooklyn NY

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Yes it was the US government...
Posted on: 2005-02-15 20:22:03   By: Anonymous
 
For anyone living in or near Las Vegas and have seen first hand how they “Implode” old casinos, the buildings are wired (not to explode, but to implode)(fall straight down and within)…..YES that is just what I saw happen to the towers!!! It was orchestrated, planned and then covered up by the best criminal minds of our age…..Our government!
I was born and raised in the US and am ashamed to admit it.

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    Re: Yes it was the US government...
    Posted on: 2005-02-15 21:28:53   By: Anonymous
     
    you should be considered a traitor to the USA. Anyone who believes this should. If you don't like it... MOVE AWAY

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      Re: Yes it was the US government...
      Posted on: 2005-02-16 03:02:15   By: kaha
       
      Yup, we sure got the nascar crowd here.
      "If you say such zings about der Fuehrer or ze Vaterland, you should be SHOT!"

      Blind nationalism is soooo 1930's...


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      Re: Yes it was the US government...
      Posted on: 2005-02-17 01:37:35   By: Anonymous
       
      ANYONE WHO THINKS THE U.S. GOV DIDN'T DO THIS NEED 2 GET DA *bleep* OUT OF AMERICA CAUSE US REAL AMERICANS ARE SPEAKING OUT & U CAN'T STOP THE TRUTH

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No Subject
Posted on: 2005-02-15 20:42:17   By: Anonymous
 
XBOX will soon execute a program making zombies out of everyone who plays it.

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Madrid Skyscraper Still Standing!
Posted on: 2005-02-16 02:53:24   By: Anonymous
 
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SPAIN_BUILDING_FIRE?SITE=VANOV&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Zero Doubt - WTC
Towers Brought Down
By Explosives

http://www.rense.com/general62/zxero.htm


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    Re: Madrid Skyscraper Still Standing!
    Posted on: 2005-02-16 02:54:20   By: Anonymous
     
    Regards,

    Headhunter

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Trotskyites-not neo-cons
Posted on: 2005-02-16 03:32:30   By: Anonymous
 
Call them what they are. In their own words-Trotskyites.
Neo-Con=Troskyite (Lev Bronstein)

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911 treason trials
Posted on: 2005-02-16 04:46:30   By: Anonymous
 
I can't wait for the treason trials. But I doubt we'll ever see them. The Neo-crazies will nuke a city and declare martial law. Only the end to secrecy will restore national security.

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you are all fools...
Posted on: 2005-02-16 06:13:59   By: Anonymous
 
you don't really believe this crap do you? don't you fools realize that this crap is pushed on you to MAKE MONEY and for no other reason.

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    Re: you are all fools...
    Posted on: 2005-02-17 01:41:15   By: Anonymous
     
    U LIE.....if u think SOME1 WILL SET UP A SITE & FAKE INFO ABOUT 911 U ARE SICK...U CAN'T STOP THE TRUTH FROM COMMING OUT.....

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No Subject
Posted on: 2005-02-16 10:51:59   By: Anonymous
 
http://home.comcast.net/~naptowntruthseeker/napt1.html

http://proofparanormal.com/

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No Subject
Posted on: 2005-02-16 17:12:35   By: Anonymous
 
Another conspiracy theory to occupy small minds. Doesn't
anybody know how to think anymore??

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    Re:
    Posted on: 2005-02-17 02:20:03   By: kaha
     
    "Another conspiracy theory to occupy small minds. Doesn't
    anybody know how to think anymore??"


    Yeah, that whole story about the guy in the cave and his 19 Magical Muslims seemed fishy to me the first time I heard it. Amazing how many people buy into such a cock-and-bull story without even checking the evidence supporting it. They probably also believe that the Holocaust never happened, that we never landed on the moon, and that toasting a slice of bread reduces it's calories by about a third.


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I live in fear ...
Posted on: 2005-02-16 18:17:14   By: Anonymous
 
... of the Popular Mechanics agenda.

NO BLOOD FOR TORQUE WRENCHES!!

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Nutcases
Posted on: 2005-02-17 01:04:11   By: Anonymous
 
You are truly nutcases!

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Popular Mechanics
Posted on: 2005-02-17 02:09:21   By: Anonymous
 
I wonder if PM has had a drop in circulation. I would like to know how many people called up and cancelled their subscriptions. I know I would have if I were a subscriber.

This article is obviously an attempt to halt the 'waking up of Americans' that is going on every moment of every day. Unfortunately, stories like this hit middle American working class people who are the most 'asleep'. Shame on Popular Mechanics. It certainly makes sense that they are owned by Hearst.

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    No Subject
    Posted on: 2005-02-17 03:43:53   By: Anonymous
      Edited By: Goldeneyemaster
    On: 2005-02-17 04:03:29
    I have a few questions for all you people that think the people that believe this are dumb.
    1. How could the fuel melt or fatigue the steel on the WTC and cause the entire building to collapse when on the pentagon the fuel couldn't even burn the paper on a book.
    2. Also how did the plane fit in a 16ft hole with no wreakage on the outside? Those are just two of the many questions that I have for you. I would like some of you people that think this website is full of crap to explain that. I think 911 in plane site explains it all very well. I dont see how anybody thinks that the terrorists could still have done it. I bet the people that criticise this website and the ideas on it haven't even really looked at the info. Also I went to CNN.com and I found a picture with the flash at the WTC, so the video and pictures are not edited. Why don't you people actually look at the info with an open mind and at least consider it and give it a chance. And for all you people that know the truth, spread the word please. But I have the feeling that this info will never get out to the main public (I hope I am wrong about that). Most people just aren't ready and don't have an open mind. I just don't know how far Bush is going to go with "spreading liberty". He never mentions the weapons of mass anymore and now just says it is for the good of the iraqi people. Why doesnt he go to Sudan then, when there is genocide going on there? Many many more people died in sudan than iraq. I have the answer, one word: oil. sudan is a desert wastland, iraq has oil. It is simple as that. I justy hope this doesnt go to far and somebody actually attacks us. the world hates us, the ony people who like Bush and the war in iraq are SOME americans.
    USA Today article READ THIS
    Read that. That shows how arrognant Bush is, we are the biggest emitter of that stuff and we are one of the few countries in the world not to sign it. Well, I could go on for a very long time about this, but I would be here a very very long time.

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    Re: Popular Mechanics
    Posted on: 2005-02-17 05:15:07   By: Anonymous
     
    Ya I think this PM article will backfire on em. It has just turned more attention back on the subject and the 911 movement has the goods.

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I agree 100%
Posted on: 2005-02-17 06:09:13   By: Anonymous
 
Move to Canada!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: I agree 100%
    Posted on: 2005-02-17 16:29:09   By: Anonymous
     
    Why?

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C'mom
Posted on: 2005-02-17 09:29:20   By: Anonymous
 
The majorty of americans, somthing to the effect of 98% of us, both lib and con beleive that 911 was an act of terrorism casue by a group of saudies, and you know what? THEY ARE RIGHT!!!! The evidance that this sight gives is faulty from the start, why wasn't there any wreack at the pentagon or penn? Because when the planes crash they did it with such force that they blasted to tiny pieces, most no bigger then a playing card or even a poker chip. The pentagon had just finish going threw remolding that would help protect it from a fission bomb, on the body of the pland had en fough force to punch through the outter Ring, the rest of the plane decintergrated on impact.

The people that run this site are blinding themselves from the truth becasue they are looking for anything to boot the current president from office. Even though bush is an idiot he didn't cause 9/11, although he might of been able to prevent it, but thats another argument

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    Re: C'mom
    Posted on: 2005-02-17 11:04:53   By: Anonymous
     
    ""why wasn't there any wreack at the pentagon or penn? Because when the planes crash they did it with such force that they blasted to tiny pieces, most no bigger then a playing card or even a poker chip. The pentagon had just finish going threw remolding that would help protect it from a fission bomb, on the body of the pland had en fough force to punch through the outter Ring, the rest of the plane decintergrated on impact.""

    Why then was there so little damage at the pentagon itself? Look at the official pictures on the pentagone website

    Imagine a car smashed at high speed against that very wall, do you thing it would "desintegrate on impact"leaving no recognizable debris?

    A plane (or any other solid object) doesn't simply vanish when hitting something no matter how hard.

    EVEN IF IT DID DESINTEGRATE;
    HOW COULD THAT -NOW NON-EXISTANT- PLANE PIERCE THREE OF THESE REINFORCED WALLS???
    MOREOVER HOW COULD THE HUMAN REMAINS BE IDENTIFY?

    You can't have it both ways.

    Bold Text

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      Re: C'mom
      Posted on: 2005-02-18 01:40:24   By: Anonymous
       
      It didn't punch through three rings, only the first two, also a plane is very, very big, a car is very, very small. The bigger something is, the harder it falls, and that plane was flying at roughly 500 mphs, also air planes are not made out of the most strongest of metals, air planes are made out of flexible metals that can bend, but when the plane hit the pentagon, it literaly shattered

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        Re: C'mom
        Posted on: 2005-02-18 10:46:12   By: Anonymous
         
        Make up your tiny mind - either it bends or shatters - can't do both - study a bit of metullargy before you go ponticicating such nonsense

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        Re: C'mom
        Posted on: 2005-02-19 10:37:45   By: Anonymous
         
        ok hillbilly boy...nice try..you *bleep*ing redneck

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Things Americans miss
Posted on: 2005-02-18 04:46:56   By: Anonymous
 
1) "911" the number is an emergency number in the US - it has absolutely NO meaning in the middle east - I doubt the cave-dwelling Muslims even now, have any idea of the significance of an attack on that particular date.

2) If the US government was totally innocent, the critics on the 911 sites would all now be in gitmo for treason. The only reason they are not is because the powers that be feel that it would be interpreted as "methinks the lady protesteth too much - no smoke without fire etc."

The fact that there has been no puniative response virtually proves the government complicity.

P.S. The gross mis-spellers in lower case on this site are more than likely "spooks" same as in the forums!! Just an observation as a scholar of the English language - multiple posts by the same people, some perfect English and others with deliberate misspelling, but the underlying gramatical construction the same -- I don't need to tell you guys this, you know from the IP's!! I think you know this IP too!!

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    Re: Things Americans miss
    Posted on: 2005-02-21 19:16:24   By: A_Real_Nut_Job
     
    Or Maybe, just maybe, we really do have freedom of speech and press, and you have the right to be a nut if you want. Not a pleasant thought, since it would imply that you are chasing a boogeyman which doesn't exist instead of spending time loving your family and being productive.

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Hate
Posted on: 2005-02-20 09:34:50   By: Anonymous
 
Whatever happens take your hate off Bush and redirect to the events that have transpired since 9-11 and what these criminals are perpetuating. People need objects of hate so be careful.

As soon as I saw the aiplanes rip into the twin towers and especially seeing them both collapse in such perfect proportion I instinctively became suspicious.

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    Re: Hate
    Posted on: 2005-02-21 00:58:47   By: Anonymous
     
    wow...you people must come from the planet cornball

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wtf
Posted on: 2005-02-21 14:38:01   By: Anonymous
 
How can all you online junkie nerds call 9/11 anything but a terroirst attack. Espescially when you base your evidence on short videos with very very crappy quality , and a couple of pictures taken from a distance. The answer isnt Bush nor is it Osama(even though he may have ordered the attack), but Humans love to kill other Humans. Thats the way its been , the way it is now, and the way it will be tommorrow. So quit trying to find someone to blame , get laid , and kill someone.


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    Re: wtf
    Posted on: 2005-02-21 14:46:31   By: Anonymous
     
    Whatever, go to hell you Illuminati Reptilian Bonesman!!!!

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illuminati did 9/11
Posted on: 2005-02-21 18:26:05   By: Anonymous
 
fact is the illuminati did 9/11 and bush, clinton, rockefellers, royalty and many others are involved (gulliani is also involved)...

they will die as the earth ascends into the 4th density...anyone who has chosen darkness (while knowing about the Light) will die during the ascension.

you must show love and light at this time and not get angry at the illuminati..

those in power get weaker with love and light and gain their power through our anger and violence

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    Re: illuminati did 9/11
    Posted on: 2005-02-22 19:22:18   By: Anonymous
     
    Very chilling indeed, what has all this to do with conspiracy? (maybe this guy has used some products from new opium paradise on earth Afghanistan)

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Thank You
Posted on: 2005-02-23 03:16:47   By: Anonymous
 
What an awesome site, I do have to truly say that we live now in a country with alot of stupid people. I have no doubt that Bush and his administration had everything to do with this disaster. Did anyone see Farenheit 9/11? These weren't michael moore's opinions, these were stated facts. I could go on and on about the piece of s@#$ that we have in office, but ill stop here. If you supported Bush at his election,I dont like you.

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