Poll Results:  Do you believe that the U.S. Government was complicit in 911, and Guilty of the Crime of 911? Everyone, Please Vote Now!

Yes, I have no Doubt in my Mind, the USA is Guilty	49.1 % (1706)
Yes, I think there is High Probability of U.S. Complicity	21.2 % (738)
No, 911 was carried out by Usama and his 19 Cave Dwelling Templar Terrorists	17.1 % (593)
No. but I do believe the Bush Administration let it happen on purpose	7.9 % (276)
I am new to this, and not sure, but it sure doesn't look good for America	4.7 % (163)

Total Votes: 3476

Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-01-31 10:31:07   By: Anonymous	Edited By: Phil_Jayhan On: 2005-01-31 10:33:03
Bush is only the puppet. Everybody knows his intellectual abilities are very limited and he does, says, and signs what he is told by Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of the neo-con mafia. That is no excuse however. (I tried to log in but it doesn't seem to work with this new site) [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-16 18:18:17   By: Anonymous
You are soooo full of *bleep* [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-17 07:39:10   By: Anonymous

Lets not be childish here...the odds that America attacked it self is just foolish! Its a known fact that bush and his administeration had their own agenda and 1 of them being increase military size and power and the other being, go into the middle east and finish wat the previous republican parties attempted to do. Naturally, everyone on this site knows, only way to get the "majority" vote of the US citizens to be in favor of going to war is by first instateing a "fear" and 911 and the fear or terrorism is that fear. just as the US and the pentagon have specific plans on what they would do or how to invade every country. there are groups and countries of people out there who have the same plans for the US. Anyone who watches tv or movies can see that, all ways people try to attach us americans. Now, some of these threats the US trys to prevent, like in the hit show 24, where a terrorist group trys to cause millions of deaths through nuclear reactor melt downs. but small things like car bombings and anthrax the US will allow to happen just so they can continue to get young new highschoolers like myself to want to go serve our country. but, a attack like 911 may have been severe, but the gov. felt "the ends justify the means" in this case. they felt it was just the rite kind of scar the US people needed. So, simply they allowed the attacks to happen. Now, the US has there hidden agenda with a great country like IRAN, with their loads of propaganda in iran, they have convinced the Iranians themselves that when the US invades it will be benifcial. so, its no accident that the new president of Iraq is of the same group and the ayotolla-president of Iran. So, just wait and see the link, some attack will happen or some problem will arise in Iraq and the US will be in Iran by summer time. This is the country we live in...and the fact that i can express my opinion like this with out total fear of prosecution is why im proud to be an american. HIGHSCHOOL SOPHMORE 408 [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-18 02:46:38   By: Anonymous

Dear 408, You are no doubt a poor 'believes everything he reads' indoctrinated 'God Bless America' HIGHSCHOOL SOPHOMORON. Open your eyes, train your brain, learn to reason, and maybe read and spell, and find out by what bunch of merciless puppets of the US weapons industry your 'wonderful' country is ahem... 'governed'. Remember he words of president Dwight Eisenhower who already warned us for what's been going on since and is getting worse every day. I feel deeply sorry for all honest hardworking and as ever way too naive sods still believing in the so-called American dream, and much more so for the true victims of this dreamland of limitless consumption who are slaving themselves to death somewhere in what we dare call "under-developed countries". They are the ones who are really paying the bill, often even with their lifes. If people resent the USA couldn't it be because it is bringing them 'liberty and democracy', at gun-point, whether they want it or not. What's worse is that the US government doesn't seems to have a problem with eradicating people who dare refuse this so-called democracy. Quite like the Third Reich's government... Besides, adopting the 'American way' most often means deterioration of quality of life, raised work pressure and stress, immediate plunge of quality of food and certainly taste, deterioration of inter-human relationships, steep rise in production of waste, cost of life and crime, etc. AND YOU DARE CALL THAT PROGRESS? NO THANKS !!! [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-18 04:55:19   By: Anonymous

Wow. You nailed it right on the head. I am an American, born and raised, and sadly, we have been "educated" and "indoctrinated" from the time we are born to believe that this is the best ever, in the whole world. While we have a great land, and honestly, the American people are a resilient bunch, and mostly hard working, decent, compassionate people, you are ever so right when you say we are over worked, over stressed, and driven like rats in a maze to be good consumers of all the products of the horrid corporate moguls. Our government, while never truly representative of "the people" has blatantly and clearly gone over the edge of insanity, and there are many of us who are truly horrified, outraged, and downright fearful of the future. So, everyone out there, believe me. Our government does NOT represent our people. Keep posting truth out there. Our media is run by the "republican machine" and we are not getting the truth, except for the internet. God help us keep THAT medium free! abitcrazy in Phoenix, Arizona [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-18 16:17:40   By: Anonymous
You said the "media is controlled by ""the republican machine"". What evidence do you have of that? [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-22 22:15:04   By: Anonymous

we do live in a great land!! a land that allows people like you to post messages like this, a land that allows this web site to exist, when it is so full of lies.try something like this in other countries, they come after you immediately!!perfect land? no, but I am proud to be American and to pray even for people that show such contempt for this country and our leaders. Phillip from florida [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-18 08:22:06   By: Anonymous

Maybe i didnt full express my opinion on the subject matter. i am in no way in favor of whats goin on in the middle east. the US quest for oil is a horrible thing. my opinion on the 911 attacks, is that the US did know about it but didnt prevent it. The idea that the US was behing the hijacking and crashed the planes and blew up the towers aswell is CRAZY. Those are the kind of idea that give ppl on websites like this bad names. even a idealistic impressionistic kid like myself finds that to be even a bit far fetched. Even tho the US has slaughterd far more ppl. but, the idea that they where behing these attacks is crazy. Now, what part of my previous posts gave you the idea that i was infavor or bushs conquest in the middle east? ill strait up say it...even tho this could probly land me on some terrorist watch list. i visit iran every yr or so, and the propoganda on both sides portraying the other country is horrible. In iran, america is portrayed as a "beautiful free country, with no crime or poverty, where everyone is happy and free" and the total reverse is happening here. Iran is portrayed as some underdeveled mud and grass house no infrastructure country (which its not, infact lots of the areas are alooot nicer than here). but regardless of that, the ppl of Iran want the US to come in and shove there "freedom" dwn there throats. if you recall the rule of the shaw, where iran and US were closely allied, the people of iran werent recieving any of the benifits, the shaw was a crock and so are the ayotollas who rule iran currently. so, i guess you hafta look at the better of 2 evils. 1st evil is the status quo and the alternative, the US invading with there military and raping the ppl of there resources and setting up a puppet governments. but thats a whole differnt subject.just wanted to clarify my points. 1)the US wasnt behind da 9/11 attacks they simple just didnt prevent them for reasons explained in my first post. 2)I am against bushs conquest in the middle east [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-19 09:36:55   By: zorglub
For telling such self-contradictory non-sense you "hafta" be a spook. Doesn't the CIA manual teaches you to avoid gross inconsistences? [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-18 02:46:38   By: Anonymous

Dear 408, You are no doubt a poor 'believes everything he reads' indoctrinated 'God Bless America' HIGHSCHOOL SOPHOMORON. Open your eyes, train your brain, learn to reason, and maybe read and spell, and find out by what bunch of merciless puppets of the US weapons industry your 'wonderful' country is ahem... 'governed'. Remember he words of president Dwight Eisenhower who already warned us for what's been going on since and is getting worse every day. I feel deeply sorry for all honest hardworking and as ever way too naive sods still believing in the so-called American dream, and much more so for the true victims of this dreamland of limitless consumption who are slaving themselves to death somewhere in what we dare call "under-developed countries". They are the ones who are really paying the bill, often even with their lifes. If people resent the USA couldn't it be because it is bringing them 'liberty and democracy', at gun-point, whether they want it or not. What's worse is that the US government doesn't seems to have a problem with eradicating people who dare refuse this so-called democracy. Quite like the Third Reich's government... Besides, adopting the 'American way' most often means deterioration of quality of life, raised work pressure and stress, immediate plunge of quality of food and certainly taste, deterioration of inter-human relationships, steep rise in production of waste, cost of life and crime, etc. AND YOU DARE CALL THAT PROGRESS? NO THANKS !!! [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-01 20:40:36   By: Anonymous	Edited By: Phil_Jayhan On: 2005-02-01 21:15:22
Basic Stupidity Comment removed because of immature, offensive language. And your IP has been banned from the website and forums. No Lets Roll for you, 1 year! Next! [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:19:40   By: Anonymous
I wasn't the author of the comments but I must wonder what your definition is of basic stupidity, as most of the other comments are just full of it. *wink wink* *nudge nudge* guess who the biased hypocrite is now. brought to you by *the Texan* [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-12 17:49:08   By: Anonymous
*bleep* opff and die you idiots [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-06 12:18:58   By: Anonymous
Zerohour said: George W. Bush is guilty of treason! Prove it. I believe that also, and I would die a happy person if only it could be proven. Where is the PROOF? [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-07 12:52:50   By: Zerohour
Well, take a look at whats presented on this site and make up your mind! [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-10 00:27:58   By: Anonymous
Incrimination is not proof [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-14 08:36:18   By: zorglub

Edited By: zorglub On: 2005-02-18 14:06:08

add link LIVE CONFIRMATION: HIGH RISE BUILDINGS DO NOT COLLAPSE DUE TO FIRE: Last WE -Feb 12/13 2005- the Windsor building in Madrid, Spain burned for more than 14 hours. Look at the pictures and see the huge flames engulfing the entire building. The fire is now out and the entire STEEL STRUCTURE still stands. http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/02/14/spain.block.fire/index.html Now compare with WTC 1, 2 and 7 that had only limited fire for about 1 hour. http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=5296 [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-15 20:45:56   By: Anonymous
That makes as much sense as saying that it is impossible for a vehicle to catch on fire after a crash because I say 10 that didn't. Morons. [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-18 03:22:01   By: Anonymous

Hey Smarty, here some among the many URLs You can start with: http://thewebfairy.com/911/demolition/controlled.htm or http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Flashes/flashes.htm and see the demolition squibs with your own eyes. http://www.serendipity.li/wtcu.html http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.htm http://www.serendipity.li/wot/davidr.html http://serendipity.ptpi.net/wtc11.htm http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/collapse%20update/ http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Flashes/flashes.htm http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/newsouth/newsouth.htm http://www.rense.com/general17/eyewitnessreportspersist.htm http://thewebfairy.com/911/demolition/controlled.htm http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/towers/ http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/may2004/051404collapsedtodust.htm http://serendipity.ptpi.net/cia/cia_terr.html http://prisonplanet.com/suppresed_details_insider_trading_cia.html http://prisonplanet.com/suppresed_details_insider_trading_cia.html http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html#bombs http://serendipity.ptpi.net/hr.html#c&m http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/08/1453219 http://prisonplanet.com/the_perplexing_puzzle.html etc., etc. [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-18 03:32:49   By: Anonymous

Steel does stop carrying loads at quite 'low' temperatures. At halfways the melting temperature a structure may no longer be able to carry it's own weight, but! therefore the building code requires to protect ALL steel members with proven fire protection. If it gets too hot anyway, the steel will not disintegrate like the WTC structures did, but collapse and turn into a pile of steel spagetti instead. There are countless videos that show evidence of many small detonations each time at the same floor level, just under the cloud of rubble coming down. These buildings where professionally demolished. Not a single doubt! [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-18 07:16:39   By: Anonymous

Hello there, Regarding the proof, you may find the .avi file titled In Plane Sight - ThePowerHour.com, of great interest and may direct your enquiries to a more fruitful area of research. You may be able to get the file from a P2P app like Bearshare on the Gnutella network or Kazaa etc. Kazaa has lots of ad softwarez though that you might not want on your machine. There is also a .pdf file called the biggest secret by David Icke, ignore anything negtive that you may have heard about him, read and leave or chose to ignore what you find questionable. The Bechtel corporation mentioned earlier is of course part of a greater power structure that is owned and controlled by the Elite or those of the so called New World Order, of which Bush (Snr and Jnr are members, check out any handsjakes that you see either of them do as well as Cheney et al). A book that focuses intently upon the manipulation and damage caused by corporations is called And The Truth Shall Set You Free also by David Icke. He is not by any means the only source of information but he has had contact with many individual who are ex-CIA and Military. NEVER STOP LOOKING [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-07 01:55:49   By: Anonymous

Dear Sir Would like to inform you that I am 100% sure that Bush administration have planned 911 events to get the full approval of the American & Western world green light to get wild. I did get intouch with Aljezeera Channel on Sept. 13 namely to Mr. Sami Hadad informing him that what happened it is 100% against Aviation law simply because I am well qualified aviation engineer but with regret they didi not pay that much attention to my message. Any intellegence office as big as CIA could have easily planned such hype. Best regards. Dr. Saad Sulaiman [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-09 07:22:00   By: Anonymous
Hi Dr. Saad, they possibly ignored you because you don't provide any information as to why you think Mr. George W. Bush is guilty. Stop complaining and use your experience just here. I promise I will read :) [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-09 07:25:04   By: Anonymous
Hi Mr. Saad, They possibly ignored you because you don't provide any information! As a knowledgeable man, why don't you prove Mr. Bush is guilty? Promise, I will read :) Orhan ODABASI [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-15 20:48:11   By: Anonymous
Dr. Saad is well, just sad. [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-09 10:50:27   By: Anonymous
Bush is guilty of treason, he was told of the attack and did nothing is everyone just ignoring the fact that when he was told about the first plane, he just kept going with his photo shoot... this is not the action of the leader of amercia but of a treasonous coward hiding behind his wealth and cheated position. Ninja-Girl [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-09 22:10:20   By: Anonymous

Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks." So I guess Bush found this writer and bribed him to write his book AND make these comments to Popular Mechanics... has anybody ever heard of Occam's Razor? [Reply ]




Re: No Doubt Posted on: 2005-02-10 03:48:14   By: Anonymous

Right after the attack there was an article that quoted a Prof. Hyman Brown from the University of Colorado at Boulder of why the WTC collapsed. So I did a search on Prof. Brown, and came up with some very interesting information. 1. He's not a Professor, but a senior instructor. Some articles even quoted him as Dr. Hyman Brown. But then it started getting really interesting. 2. If you go to the URL http://bechtel.colorado.edu/new/faculty/people/people.cgi?faculty you'll find Hyman Brown, and notice his picture. Now if you go to URL http://civil.colorado.edu/web/people/index.html you'll find Hyman Brown listed there also, but notice his picture. Then the name in the first URL, BECHTEL caught my attention. I knew I had read the name somewhere, but couldn't put my finger on it. Then it came to me, Haliburton, as in Cheney's Haliburton. A lot of interesting information regarding Bechtel and Haliburton when you do a search for Bechtel Haliburton Iraq http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bechtel+haliburton+iraq&btnG=Google+Search And why would the University have the name Bechtel included in their URL, and there's no way the two Hyman Brown's are the same person. And the second Hyman Brown, under the University's URL isn't old enough to have been the construction manager for the WTC, as the articles claimed he was. I just found it odd, and interesting and thought I would pass on the information. [Reply ]

Re: There are Many Anomolies Posted on: 2005-01-31 18:08:19   By: Zerohour
Dude, word is getting out, for proof of that simply look at this link [Reply ]




Re: There are Many Anomolies Posted on: 2005-02-01 06:55:41   By: Anonymous

As JFKII.com makes clear, BushCo is a family crime syndicate that has been a middle man for the ruling elites for decades. Taking even one of them down would endanger those ruling elites. I look at 9/11 Truth this way: In 2001, people were in shock. In 2002, people had a lot of questions. In 2003, people's questions became suspicions. In 2004, people's suspicions became convictions. In 2005, people will act on their convictions. BushCo is passing as many "color of law" legislations as they can to terrify the public into submission but fear only lasts so long and vengeance tends to last a lot longer. The main problems of the past few years have been the deliberate fracturing of the 9/11 Truth movement by "Peak Oil" and similar unrelated scams. "Peak Oil" has *nothing* to do with prosecuting the crimes of 9/11 but so-called "leaders" of the 9/11 Truth movement are passing it off as somehow related to 9/11. Add to that, some very poor lawsuits such as the recently dismissed Hilton lawsuit and you get a feeling of hopelessness, which is exactly what some of these bogus lawsuits and fraudulent efforts are geared towards. This URL is right on point: http://onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/012805Floum/012805floum.html This is the year we *prosecute* the EPA fraud, the illegal removal of WTC evidence and other known crimes. After we fry a few fish, it will be time to fry some of those middle fish on our way to shutting down the so-called New World Order. Please support the reopen911.org effort. [Reply ]




Re: There are Many Anomolies Posted on: 2005-02-09 16:46:09   By: Anonymous

I concur with your timeline on the reaction/involvement of the the American people to the event of 9-11. After the "attacks" I told my wife that these events we are seeing will have a different story in the future. That day, I said at the time Bush was involved; I have not changed my mind, yet have more information to support this conclusion. I have been informing many friends, family and co-workers about the other side of the "official" version. In my research and reading "Crossing the Rubicon" by M Rupert I am convinced that Peak Oil has everything to do with the events that took place on 9-11. Peak Oil provides the motive behind what took place [Reply ]




Re: There are Many Anomolies Posted on: 2005-02-03 01:44:29   By: Anonymous

Just keep telling more amd more people. I've burned about 500 copies of In Plane Site out of my own pocket. People keep coming back to me "I had no idea". I think this is the most dangerous time for our country since the Civil War. THANK YOU - Jay, Micheal Rupert,Micheal Moore, Alex Jones and especially Dave Vonklest, who gave me the first red pill.I know now for a fact that Bush and his New World Order Mafia is guilty treason and mass murder and you guys have gave me the tools to show everybody.LET'S TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!TELL EVERYBODY [Reply ]




Re: There are Many Anomolies Posted on: 2005-02-16 02:26:44   By: Anonymous
with a tear in my eye...why are ppl so not informed to let a guy like bush into office [Reply ]

Re: pathetic Posted on: 2005-02-03 03:57:04   By: Anonymous
Not only that, but does anyone really believe that over 1100 different people voted on this stupidity? This sites has nowhere near the traffic to justify that. More like 100 votes from each of these conspiracy nuts. :D [Reply ]




Re: pathetic Posted on: 2005-02-03 13:43:56   By: Zerohour
Dude, check the Who's online box, and thats just the last 5 minutes! [Reply ]




Re: pathetic Posted on: 2005-02-07 16:53:50   By: Anonymous

I see you deleted my post regarding the inaccuracy of the "who's online" figure listed at the bottom of the page. Why is that? I mentioned that it could quite easily be faked or manipulated, and that the browser worm that redirects traffic to this site could also throw off that figure significantly. And you have the audacity to claim that this site doesn't censor? What about what user Kaha says in the post directly below? It was not abusive, nor a troll, and I certainly am not a moron... so what gives? No wonder you guys have credibility problems. [Reply ]




Re: pathetic Posted on: 2005-02-07 18:02:57   By: kaha

Edited By: kaha On: 2005-02-07 18:58:10

"What about what user Kaha says in the post directly below? It was not abusive, nor a troll, and I certainly am not a moron... so what gives?" That response was general, and not directed at you. I didn't have a chance to read your post, and have no idea what it said. I'm against censorship in general; if the post was not abusive or an obvious troll, perhaps whoever deleted it would care to explain why. EDIT- *scrolls up* Ah, it was deleted by the owner of the board and the website. And he can delete anything he wants to. :) Also: "I mentioned that it could quite easily be faked or manipulated, and that the browser worm that redirects traffic to this site could also throw off that figure significantly." The worm that affects crummy operating systems (Windows) and buggy browsers (IE) doesn't have any effect on the server side of things. If you were one of the people who were directed here because of the worm, plaease accept my apologies. It angered all of us here, as well. [Reply ]




Re: pathetic Posted on: 2005-02-05 03:33:12   By: kaha
No, it deletes abusive trolls from morons. [Reply ]




Re: pathetic Posted on: 2005-02-09 20:25:01   By: Anonymous
... riiiiiiiiiight.... (note: I am not the same as the other guy who posted anonymously above. just so you don't get confused.) [Reply ]

Re: hmm Posted on: 2005-02-09 20:27:41   By: Anonymous
No, I don't think the government keeps watch lists of sites run by useless morons. You could achieve the same result by printing out the Google results for "911 conspiracy" [Reply ]

Re: get a life! Posted on: 2005-02-03 00:13:14   By: Phil_Jayhan

Edited By: Phil_Jayhan On: 2005-02-03 00:15:17

Actually, I voted for Bush in 2000, and was a Republican. Now I belong to no party. As the Democrats are opposite in most of my own beliefs. This has nothing to do with partisan politics. I am a conservative still. But no longer a Republican. And FYI, before I found the truth about 911, I had always blindly followed the Republican party, because their platform is closest to my own, while still worlds apart... And I am the Founder of this Website. [Reply ]




Sorry to hear that! Posted on: 2005-02-04 10:55:03   By: Anonymous
I am always disheartened to hear good people say that they are or were Republikans. But hopefully these values were prior to your introduction into the true reality of Amerika?! Check out A People's History of the United States... by Howard Zinn. [Reply ]




Founder Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:42:46   By: Anonymous
I must congradulate you on a forming one of the funniest sites I have come across in awhile! The free entertainment provided by these conspirators is amazingly funny. Their comments and "proofs" merit recognition, not for substance, but for dimwittedness and hypocrisy. I look forward to more comments such as these. brought to you by *the Texan* [Reply ]




Re: Founder Posted on: 2005-02-08 23:54:39   By: Anonymous

Here;'s a fact, not a theory for you. On 9/11 Wackenhut Security was in charge of airport security for all three airports where the planes were supposedly hijacked. Wackenhut Security, owned and operated by ex-CIA/FBI agents, receives 98% of all government security contracts, Bush has teamed them up with FEMA, and they've recently replaced the security at both West Point and Annapolis. 90 days after the 9/11attacks, Weackenhut Security informed Washington-Dulles and Newark International they were getting out of the airport security business, so they were replaced. Yet three years later they're still doing airport security around the US. The FAA doesn't re-issue tail numbers or flight numbers of crashed flights. So maybe you can explain how it is on April 10, 2003 Mr. Friedman, a pilot for United Airlines flew the 757 with the tail number N591UA, the same tail number as flight 93 ? Now supposedly one of the main purposes of the 9/11 commission was to find out how the attacks were allowed to happen in the first place. Now one would think finding out how it is that 19 supposed hijackers managed to get past passenger security check to enter the terminal area without having tickets, and especially how they boarded 4 airplanes without tickets or boarding passes, would have been one of the first questions the commission would want to find out. But apparently the commission wasn't interested, as Wackenhut Security wasn't asked those questions, or any other questions by the 9/11 commission. Given the fact that flight 93 had 38 passengers with 5 flight attendents, with a capacity of 219, flight 77 had 57 passengers, with 7 flight attendents, again with a capcity of 219, etc., I'm amazed any airline company wasting this amount of money per flight is even in business. I've flown a lot of flights, and 99.9 % were either full or close to it, didn't matter if it was the red eye, 8 am or 1-3 PM, yet they only had 4-5 attendents on the flights. If anything, the airlines has fewer flight attendents than need, yet the flights on 9/11 for every 7-8 passengers, they had their own flight attendent ? Now that would be a first. Being well aware there were still two airliners somewhere in the air and their targets unknown, one has to wonder why there was never a fighter jet scrambled to protect Air Force One when they left Florida Only someone who knew they were never in any danger would know there was no need for protection. These are just a few of the hundreds of facts that the Bush government planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks. Ignoring them isn't going to change them. [Reply ]




Wow. Posted on: 2005-02-08 14:23:35   By: Anonymous
I just saw this site mentioned in Popular Mechanics. You people are really out to lunch. I believe there is plent of room in Canada for anyone who truly believes these theories. [Reply ]




Re: Wow. Posted on: 2005-02-09 20:32:33   By: Anonymous
ditto here. [Reply ]




Re: get a life! Posted on: 2005-02-05 03:36:05   By: kaha	Edited By: kaha On: 2005-02-05 06:23:40
Spoken like a true dittohead. Why do you assume that we're "libs"? Because that's the only thing that fits into your childishly oversimplified, black-and-white mental framework? [Reply ]




Re: get a life! Posted on: 2005-02-06 12:15:58   By: Anonymous
I agree. I'm a very liberal democrat, and I think all this conspiracy nonsense about 9/11 is just plain paranoid stupidity... all you see here is questions and speculation, but not one shred, not a single iota of hard proveable substantiated evidence to support any of it. Ask for proof, and all you get is questions in return... pathetic indeed. [Reply ]




Re: get a life! Posted on: 2005-02-07 01:19:56   By: Anonymous
The proof is in the video evidence. [Reply ]




get a CLUE! Posted on: 2005-02-07 11:42:11   By: Anonymous

Your interpretation of the videos does not constitute proof of anything... except perhaps how misguided and paranoid you crackpot conspiracy theorists are. Your interpretations of the video images are merely conjecture and speculation, if not downright deception and lies. PROOF: - something that induces certainty or establishes validity. - evidence operating to determine the finding or judgment of a tribunal. - a test applied to articles or substances to determine whether they are of standard or satisfactory quality. Your so-called 'proof' contains none of these qualities. It appears that your definitiion of proof and my definition of proof are two totally different definitions. Your so-called 'proof' contains none of the standard and commonly accepted qualities outlined by any dictionary. None, zero, zip, zilch, nada. What you call proof everyone else with a minimal sense of logic calls unsupported insistence. Until you can provide real, solid, undeniable proof to support these nutty speculations, you'll just keep spinning your wheels futilely, because you will only be preaching to your own self-deluded choir of whackos. Nobody with 1/4 of a brain, nor anyone with any credibility, would stand behind what you claim to be proof. [Reply ]




Re: get a CLUE! Posted on: 2005-02-07 17:58:21   By: kaha

Please explain to us how these 19 "hijackers", without being caught on surveillance video in the airports where they allegedly boarded the doomed flights (even though four of them were supposed to have been detained), managed to cause WTC7 to collapse without even bothering to fly a jetliner into it? Examine photos and video clips of Building 7, a 47 story, steel framed structure. You'll see that it was not damaged by debris from the collapsing towers, and that it only had small fires burning on a couple floors. Yet it collapsed that afternoon, falling neatly down as through a controlled demolition. Why? [Reply ]




Re: get a CLUE! Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:19:53   By: kaha
Come on, guys. I'm waiting for the explanation. [Reply ]




Re: get a CLUE! Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:28:00   By: Anonymous
refer to my comment near bottom about PM showing y'all up... brought to you by *the Texan* [Reply ]




Re: get a CLUE! Posted on: 2005-02-15 06:00:27   By: Anonymous
IF PROOF FIT IN WITH YOUR PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS, YOU WOULD POUND YOUR FIST INTO YOUR CHEST AND CALL IT YOUR OWN [Reply ]

Re: Who's running the show...? Posted on: 2005-02-08 01:30:40   By: Anonymous
Just wondering where you got the stats that they have 90% of the world's wealth and that amounts to 600 trillion. I didn't think they had 90% yet anyway. [Reply ]

Re: THE WALKING DEAD Posted on: 2005-02-03 23:32:30   By: Anonymous
LOL. You people will believe anything you're told won't you? The videos are blurry, very blurry. That means thats they are edited. You people need to (as stated above) get a clue. PS: Thankyou for all that backed my first post up. [Reply ]




Re: THE WALKING DEAD Posted on: 2005-02-04 04:18:26   By: coffeelover	Edited By: coffeelover On: 2005-02-04 04:25:40
An ole by the way....... Nope. I just do not believe media outlets who twists the real truth and shove it in your face. PS: I can tell you are a regular to these forums. Cut and paste bold form on your post. Smells like a RAT to me. lol..... [Reply ]




Re: THE WALKING DEAD Posted on: 2005-02-04 08:57:07   By: Anonymous	Edited By: Phil_Jayhan On: 2005-02-04 08:59:54
... Sure. Like Iraq had lots of WMD, ready to destroy the world. The governement would never lie. Especialy if the lie implies the death of thousands of innocents... [Reply ]




Re: THE WALKING DEAD Posted on: 2005-02-04 12:32:58   By: Anonymous

Actually, I have never posted here before. I got that pain in the butt virus that sets your homepage to this site and decided to look around. Im too lazy to fix it. The bold also makes your comments more noticable, plus it helps show I am the same guy that posted previously. And have you gotten a good come-back to the editing? That's right... NO because it was edited. Honestly, thats like listening to static on a TV and claiming you heard voices. You can hear or see whatever you WANT to believe. [Reply ]




Re: THE WALKING DEAD Posted on: 2005-02-04 19:13:05   By: Phil_Jayhan
Blurry? Not so blurry one can't still clearly tell whats going on. Nice try. [Reply ]




Re: THE WALKING DEAD Posted on: 2005-02-05 17:26:39   By: Anonymous
PHIL JAYHAN & JOHN GAITIA I JUST POSTED TO THE WALKING DEAD " THE WALKING DEAD IS A C.I.A. SPOOK......WHY IS IT GONE NOW??? DO U NOT LIKE ME POINTING OUT THE FACT THAT THE WALKING DEAD ACTS LIKE A SPOOK [Reply ]




Blurry Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:32:17   By: Anonymous
ah but one sees what they want to see. is that a bulge? must be a military pod...nothing else could explain it... [Reply ]




Re: Blurry Posted on: 2005-02-09 20:39:23   By: Anonymous

... If I may quote Ronald Greeley, director of the Space Photography Laboratory at Arizona State, and a renowned expert at analyzing images to determine shapes based on shadow and light effects, who dismissed the idea that photographs reveal a "pod", saying that it was most likely light glinting off the part of the plane that contains the landing gear... "Such a glint causes a blossoming (enlargement to you retarded wackjobs) on film which tends to be amplified in digital versions of images-the pixels are saturated [with light] and tend to 'spill over' to adjacent pixels." [Reply ]




Re: Blurry Posted on: 2005-02-19 10:35:15   By: Anonymous
how do some pixels "spill" and others on the same picture do not? Did you make this up?... Pixels do not spill you idiots....nice try... [Reply ]




Re: THE WALKING DEAD Posted on: 2005-02-05 03:23:12   By: kaha
"Blurry"? You mean like the five lousy frames that the Pentagon released, purporting to show a jetliner slamming into the building, but which show no such thing? Where are the missing frames? And where are the other videos that were confiscated, from the CITGO, the Sheraton, and the VDOT cam? [Reply ]




Re: THE WALKING DEAD Posted on: 2005-02-05 05:17:17   By: Anonymous

DUDE WHY NOT SUGGEST VIOLENCE!!!! I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS BUT A LITTLE VIOLENCE IS GOOD HERE . I'M NOT THE ONE WHO'S BLOWING UP BUILDINGS . SCAREING OLD LADIES WITH "THE WAR ON TERROR". I SUGGESTED VIOLENCE TOWARDS THE ONES WHO DID THIS AKA THE INLIGHTENED ONES.... SKULL & BONES,BOHEM. GROVE GUYS,FREEMAISONS,BILDERBERGS,TRI.COMMISSION,CFR,WHO ELSE??? P.S. GIVE ME SOME VIDEO & PHOTOS OF THE SECOND PLANE HITTING THE BUILDING BUT I WANT VIDEO THAT IS FOCUSED ON THE 1ST PLANE CRASH THE ENTIRE TIME...THERE ARE LITTLE BOMBS GOING OFF ON THE FLOORS ABOVE THE PLANE CRASH THUS WEAKING THE FLOORS ABOVE WRECKAGE MAKE IT FALL "BETTER"? UNLESS U ARE A NAZI C.I.A. SPOOK OR A F.B.I. SPOOKOR JUST A NO GOOD DIRTY SPOOK U ARE A MORON IF U THINK THIS INFO ON THIS SITE IS FAKE I HAVE HISTORY CHANNEL FOOTAGE THAT HAS THE SAME "FLASHES" WATCH THE BUILDINGS FALL RIGHT UNDER THE RUBBLE FALLING TO THE STREETS THERE ARE C4 OR DYNOPLEX BOMBS GOING OFF WEAKING THE BUILDING IT'S ALL THERE U ARE TO STUPID TO SEE IT .PEOPLE SAY AWWWW THAT'S SOMETHING IN THE BUILDING BREAKING & COMMING OUT THE WALLS.....THERE'S NOTHING COMMING OUT OF THE WALLS BUT EXPLOSIVE FORCE FROM A BOMB....JUST ASK THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THREW IT THEY SAY THERE WAS BOMBS GOING OFF EVERYWHERE...FIREFIGHTERS SAY IT TO...I HAVE CHIEF OF FIRE & SAFTY SAYING " HE THINKS THE BUILDINGS HADS BOMBS LACED THREW IT & HE SAID THE PLANE HAD BOMBS ON IT ALSO HE LOST ALOT OF FF'S IN THEM SECOND EXPLOSIVES GOING OFF" DO YOUR RESEARCH U DIRTY NO GOOD NARCS & SPOOKS WHO SIDE ARE YALL ON ANYWAYS???? [Reply ]




Re: THE WALKING DEAD Posted on: 2005-02-07 12:56:50   By: Anonymous
Hey, i think your caps lock key is broken, you should fix it. [Reply ]




Dear Walking Idiot Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:38:23   By: Anonymous
haha your definitly not one of the enlightened ones apparently. survivors to "bombs going off everywhere"? hmm don't you think they'd be dead? or maybe its just something else created to fuel your imaginary revolution. keep at it, keeps us sane people entertained! brought to you by *the Texan* [Reply ]




Re: THE WALKING DEAD Posted on: 2005-02-08 03:25:39   By: Anonymous
wow...you must be a genius Walking Dead to be able to see all that C-4 in these beautifully buzzy photographs... by the way, I don't think South Alabama needs convincing that the US attacked itself, they need convincing out of endogamia... brought to you by *the Texan* [Reply ]




Re: THE WALKING DEAD Posted on: 2005-02-09 16:56:36   By: Anonymous

I have been posting my list of questions on Yahoo news stories response section. Here is are my questions which I have discovered answers to over the past few months. PENTAGON • Why wasn’t there any plane debris or burnt lawn at the seen of the crash? • Why was the hole only 16’ in diameter when a 737 is 26’ in diameter. • Why didn’t the impact marks on the building account for the two engines? • Why was the security camera in the gas station aiming at the Pentagon confiscated by the FBI only five minutes after the “crash”? • Why was water sprayed on a jet fuel fire and not foam? AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL • Why weren’t any military jets scramble when the flights went off course? • Why were the flights unaccounted for and not on FAA radar? • Why were there War Game using the scenario of a domestic flight being hijacked and flown into buildings occurring the day before and the morning of 9/11? • What is Global Hawk and when did it become operational? What affiliation did the four Raytheon engineers onboard the 9/11 flights have with Global Hawk? WTC COLLAPSE • Why did the concrete create pulverized dust and not just crumble with a “gravitational” collapse? • Where was the large pile on concrete rubble from the “gravitational collapse”? • Why was the dust on the ground around the building symmetrical? • What created the kinetic energy to pulverize concrete at the beginning of the “gravitational” collapse? • Where happened to the angular momentum of the top section on the South tower after it began to “tip over”? • How did the concrete poured steel reinforced core fail if the floors pancaked onto themselves? • How did an oxygen starved, low temperature fire created enough heat to elongate the steel beams to induce a buckling load to cause the attachment joints to fail? • What caused the external forces to eject the debris outward up to 500’ beyond the foot print of the building? • What created the intense heat to melt 4 inch steel beams 70 feet below the ground and retain the heat for up to three weeks? • Who ran security at the WTC buildings? • Why did the building fall at free fall velocities? • What caused the two seismic spikes registered 20 miles from ground zero? • Why was all the evidence of the collapse taken off site and sent over seas? • Controlled Demolition Inc was awarded the contract to clean up ground zero. What other clean-up projects were they awarded? • Why has there not been an investigation of 9/11 by anyone other that FEMA? (note FEMA is not an investigating branch of the government) • Where did the original official version of the collapse come from? Who provided the back up support and where does he work? Why is the final official version not complete, yet the original version has not been disputed? WTC 7 • What caused the collapse of WTC 7? • What was stored in WTC 7? • Who owned WTC 7, when did he acquire it and how much does he stand to profit from the insurance claims? BUSINESS TIES • What do Halliburton, The Caspian Sea Basin and Peak Oil have in common? • Why is the US at war in Iraq when Osama bin Ladin was accused of the attacks? • Who is Mike Vreeland and what does he know? • Why do 8 of the 10 people assigned to the 9-11 Commission have a conflict of interest with “Big Oil” • Why is the Chair of the 9-11 Commission (Thomas Kean) on the board for Armanda Hess oil Company which is deeply involved with the Caspian Sea Basin pipeline? • Where has main street media been on these topics for the past three years and why? Want some answers? http://911research.wtc7.net/ http://911review.org/ http://911truth.org/ http://reopen911.org/ http://www.wanttoknow.info/9-11timeline60pg http://www.sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/1548412.php http://www.exit23.com/9-11/ http://www.letsroll911.org http://www.americanfreepress.net/Conspiracy/Fire_Engineers_Call_WTC_Probe/fire_engineers_call_wtc_probe.html http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/experts/articles/eagar_jom/eagar_0112.html http://www.rense.com/general59/esFBICIAagentsready.htm http://www.serendipity.li/wot/aa11.html [Reply ]